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Subject: WORLD OF DARKNESS: FAQ 5 of 5
From: [r j kirkpatric] at [ualr.edu] (RJK)
Date: 17 Jan 94 09:08:40 CST
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 93 20:51:47 -0800
From: [d--r--e] at [efn.org] (Deird'Re Brooks)
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: WoD FAQ, pt 5
X. Ideas for Atmosphere - Music, Lighting, etc
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A new section has been added to this - a list of non-vampiric,
lycanthropic, or magic(k)al sources of Story Ideas. Everything
in this particular piece of the list is in its original post, so
credit where credit is due is there.
Xa. Music (Lots of new stuff here)
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From: BSU::ANANDA 1-JUN-1993 16:34:57.80
To: MSUS1::IN%"[j--a] at [cs.indiana.edu]"
CC: AJ
Subj: RE: ST FAQ Rules & Music
What? No one commented on music for Toreador??
For something to play for your Toreador players, try "The
Hunger", title track from a Michael Bolton tape. Fairly good
lyrics in general, excellent for Toreador.
Stuff Toreador might possibly listen to:
*All* of Andrew Lloyd Weber's _Phantom_of_the_Opera_, and
especially "The Music of the Night." I have the double-CD
version, and *every* time I listen to it, I hear something new in
the music. The amount of subtle symmetry is unreal -- in the
midst of one scene, you hear the theme from another scene, and if
you're paying attention it can influence the mood a good deal.
Probably lots of other Lloyd Weber stuff, for pretty much the
same reasons.
Damn near any kind of jazz. The Poseurs will like jazz for the
sake of liking jazz, while the Artistes will be more likely to
understand and appreciate the requirements all the improvisation
makes on the players.
Various types of classical music, depending on the individual.
The Poseurs will like whatever's "trendy" at the moment, while
the Artistes' preferences will be more individualistic and less
likely to change frequently. (I prefer baroque stuff, because
I've sung things like Bach fugues and know how bloody difficult
it can be to do them well.)
Carl Orff's _Carmina_Borana_. I tend to lose track of how many
different languages are in that monster. Stylistically, it
ranges from the very intense, stacatto feel of the first piece
(which has been used in numerous movies) to a very legato, almost
lyrical feel. I've heard a synth version, too. Real fun stuff.
(maybe) Enya, possibly all three albums: _Enya_, _Watermark_,
and _Shepherd_ _Moons_. Visual artists will love her videos,
which tend to look like paintings in motion.
Assorted stuff by Iaso Tomita and Vangelis, both geniuses at the
syths.
Vladimir Horowitz, "one of the best classical pianists ever
recorded".
_Gershwin_Plays_Gershwin_, if you can find it. It's the man
himself, playing
"Rhapsody in Blue" and several shorter piano works. The best
orchestral version of the Rhapsody I've heard is the one
conducted by Mitch Miller.
And of course, any of the younger set will probably listen to
Floyd. Pink Floyd, played rather too loud through closed-ear
headphones, could come close to a religious experience for some
Toreador...
...That's a start... >:-]
--Ananda
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1993 13:59:00 -0500 (EST)
From: James Rogers <[94 JROGERS] at [vax.mbhs.edu]>
Subject: Music stuff
To: vampire <[v--p--e] at [math.ufl.edu]>
This is a list of stuff I put together for a putative V:tM
campaign. I don't know much about punk/rock/etc., so my stuff is
mostly classical stuff high on creepiness.
Bela Bartok:
Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celesta - 1st and
3rd mvts. Bartok is the consummate creepy composer, and
also Hungarian. Some of his more "traditional" pieces might
also be good if you want a background of classical music
that "doesn't sound quite right."
Arvo Paert: Fratres
There are manymanymany versions and arrangements of the
piece that were just put out recently. You can find several
if you know where to look. My version is by the Kronos
Quartet on their album "Winter Was Hard."
Actually, the rest of the stuff I've actually recorded is all by
the Kronos Quartet. I'll group them by album:
"Kronos Quartet":
Terry Riley:
Half-Wolf (!) Dances Mad in Moonlight from Salome
Dances for Peace Sorry, this is from "Winter Was Hard." It
makes a decent Garou theme, not to mention being fairly
"mad." And no, I don't believe in choosing music by title
now, stuff that really is on "Kronos Quartet":
Peter Sculthorpe: String Quartet #8
A very melancholy piece. It sounds sort of
"naturalistic" and would probably be out of place in the
city.
Philip Glass: Company
Ha! The only composer on this list that's also on Mark
Rein*Hagen's list. Good piece, and the KQ is excellent.
"Winter Was Hard":
The aforementioned "Fratres" and "Half-Wolf... etc"
and also Astor Piazzolla:
"Four, for Tango" Good music for a "formal" scene,
when there is supposed to be dancing.
Other music I've been considering:
Aram Khachaturyan: "Masquerade" Suite - excellent by any name.
Dmitrii Shostakovich: Symphony #4
Maurice Ravel: La Valse
Antonin Dvorak: Symphony #8, movement #3
Camille Saint-Saens: Danse Macabre
Joseph Schwantner: Music of Amber
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1993 13:07:42 -0500
From: "Douglas L. Bridges" <[d l b 1] at [ra.msstate.edu]>
Subject: Book o' Nod and others
To: [v--p--e] at [math.ufl.edu]
I think that I have to agree on Tim on this. I don't think
that you should put out a book of Nod defining everything which
caused the creation of the Cainites. But, how I understood it
from the letter the Mr. Chupp wrote is that it would be an
inexact translation. I think that Mr. Chupp needs give us more of
a description of what he is thinking it is going to be like,
instead of just giving it as a trailer to the announcement of
Dark Colony and Sabbat ST guide. I am glad that you are putting
out Dark Colony, and being one of the Bourben Street droolers, I
was mad that you were putting it out before the NO by Night. (At
least that is how I understood it.)
I wanted to put down my list of favorite CD's to use during
a vamp game. I have found all of these to have a great
background effect for the games.
1) Soundtrack to Aliens 3. This is a quick cue to all of my
players the some Garou are entering the scene. It is one of
the most eerie CD's I have ever heard and I HIGHLY recomend
it.
2) Soundtrack to The Hunger. The eerie background music mixed
in with the classical music makes a great mackground sound
for any vamp game.
3) Joy Division-> Unknown Pleasures. At the recomendation of
the ST's guide, I bought this CD. It is a very dark and
down trodden CD. A must.
4) Faith No More-> The Real Thing. Every song on this CD fits
the WoD. If you have it, read the lyrics to all the songs.
They all could be talking about vamparism. This CD works
well when the characters go into some of the Urban Brawl
scenes and into some of the heavier clubs.
5) Holst->The Planets. The eerieness of all of these songs will
freak most players.
6) Orff-> Carmina Burana. The chanting and singing in this
works great for all meetings of a chantry, or especially
when the players wander onto the Sabbat and their rituals.
7) Best of the Talking Heads. Malkavians. 'Nuff Said.
8) Monty Python -> The Final Rip Off. See above.
9) Red Hot Chili Peppers -> Blood Sugar Sex Magic. Start
playing this when the players get into any urban dirty
area(with anarachs, sabbat, whataver.)
<Lost the header to this one. Sigh. Dunno who wrote it.>
Other music we've used around here:
Peter Gabriel's _Passion_, the soundtrack for _The Last
Temptation of Christ_: good dark stuff, almost completely
instrumental, except for some vocalizing (I wouldn't really
call it *singing*...)
Skinny Puppy's _Too Dark Park_: more on the alternative
side, second (?) track was our chase scene theme when we
were playing Nightlife ;)
T2 soundtrack
Message 91/187 From Eric Michael Jumper Nov 2, 93
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 08:07:45 -0800
Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: Music
Hey All you lovers and haters of music:
this is eric:
For werewolf games involving the weaver, Kronos Quartet (Sp?) is
really great (Hell, they're really great for many other things
too). If you want a *True* horror sound trak, Diamanda Galas'
(Sp?) Plague Mass is not to be believed. I also like Ozzy's
Ironman for no particular reason. (Beavis and Butthead in
chorus: Buh Duh Duhduhduh, badadadadada da duh) If you got that
one, you really watch too much Beavis and Butthead. Finnally,
you need some happy, spoodgy, froofy music for intro's, caern
scenes etc. It ain't all Iron Maiden and Alice in Chains.
(which are great too)
eric
still reeling from the Diamanda Galas concert *shudder*
Message 62/187 From Tom Granvold Nov 2, 93
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 09:20:55 -0800
Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: Re: Music
Eric wrote:
>For werewolf games involving the weaver, Kronos Quartet (Sp?) is
>really great (Hell, they're really great for many other things
>too).
At least somebody else knows about the Kronsos Quartet, yes
that is spelled correctly. To be more specific, I recomend the
following: "Salome: Dances for Peace" by Terry Riley, "Pieces of
Africa", and another recording of Terry Riley's which I can't
remember its name (on of the pices on it is something like
Midnight Ride of the Dream Catcher).
Also, to really add to those really depressing moments in the
game, say when the vampire character goes into rage and kills
someone he still cares about, try "Dark Angels" again performed
by the Kronos Quartet.
Enough for now,
Tom Granvold
[t--m] at [clipper.ingr.com]
Message 97/159 From [S--LZ--R] at [uwplatt.edu] Nov 2, 93
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 93 23:16:38 -0800
Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: Re: music
I would also recommend Paul Simon's "Rythem of the
Saints" album for Moots in Werewolf and "Bram Stoker's Dracula
Soundtrack" for Vampire. I especially like A. Lennox's "Love song
for a Vampire".
D Lucas
Quote--"So I drink blood from time to time. We all have our
little quirks don't we." (player to npc)
Message 46/159 From Andrew Philip Fabbro Nov 3, 93
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 09:58:17 -0800
Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: Music
I read some upstream music suggestions and thought I'd throw in a
few of my own...
Tom Waits, _The Bone Machine_ (several songs..."Black Wings" is
practically written with V:tM in mind)... Rain Dogs also has its
Gothic moments Carl Orff, _Carmina Burana_...pretty
high-powered choral work-- a 20th-century composition using the
text of depraved medieval monks (really)
Rachmaninoff, _Vespers_
most any Gregorian chant...for those mausoleum scenes...
parts of Pink Floyd's _Meddle_, esp the first track
...and I think _Night on Bald Mountain_ goes without
saying...there's a delightful record that came out back in the
60s called "The Devil in Stereo Hi-Fi". Alas, I seem to have
lost my copy, but NOBM led off and it get grimmer from there...;)
Message 25/159 From James A Estes Nov 3, 93
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 93 12:49:03 -0800
Comment: Discussion of the White Wolf World of Darkness
To: Multiple recipients of list <[vampire l] at [wizards.com]>
Subject: Re: Music
> Carl Orff, _Carmina Burana_...pretty high-powered choral work--
>a 20th-century composition using the text of depraved medieval
>monks (really)
Don't forget the techno remix of this piece, by
Apotheosis. Is it Gothic or is it Punk? Its both!
Pax
JAE
Message 29/111 From The LITTLE man FROM another PLACE Nov 5, 93
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 93 19:24:19 GMT
To: Deird'Re Brooks <[d--r--e] at [efn.org]>
Subject: Music...
Ok, here it goes...(bloody tt):
For the calm baefore the storm:
* Dead Can Dance: all albums. Eerie stuff
* And also the tree: all, cold wave.
* Any Oldfield.
* The Prisoner sound track.
* Twin Peaks sound track.
* Dune sound track.
For the storm:
* UB92 (I think, can't bloody remember their name) Das Boot,
exelent techno/das boot mixing. (BTW das boot is an old TV serial
about a german U-Boot during the WWI. Very good)
* Metalica. Last album.
* Mega death.
* Every new dead ghost.
For both (depending on tracks):
* ALL the Danny elfman!
* Any horror/fantastic film soundtrack.
And of course: The little mermaid soundtrack (any
Malkavian meeting)/Remixed with acid jazz............(No I A mNoT
M aD!"#$%%^&^&**).
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1993 19:33:14 +1000 (EST)
From: [int 907 a] at [lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au] (Sean O'Connell)
Subject: musicing
To add to the list, some dark/goth music....
Concrete Blond: a much-mentioned group woth Vampires
- Blood letting - great!
- Walking in London.
(where's the bloody case, ah here tis)
The title, track, 'Walking in London' captures the idea
of a Blood Bond beautifully... just the entire tone of the
song.
'City screaming', 'Why don't you see me', and perhaps
'Someday' make for good vamp-stuff too... quiet, but eery.
Shakespear's Sister (their spelling): Sacred heart
Has some cool goth tracks, esp. Run Silent , although
at times is a bit 'boppy' to be good for bground music....
Blade Runner Soundtrack: no more to be said, although I would
remove track 3 for b/ground music :) (vocals ;)
Maybe Hunters&Collectors and Black Sorrows, but only
certain selected songs...
's all that comes to mind :)
Sean
Xb. Idea Sources
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Message 132/159 From The Deranged Priest Nov 2, 93
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1993 09:59:39 CST
To: [d--r--e] at [efn.org]
Subject: Re: Should work this time...
Well, here's what I know just offhand. If the idea still
appeals after this, the net will probably divulge other sources
as well.
The Serpent and the Rainbow_ (can't remember the author's
name) Book is available (and I don't have it, otherwise I'd add
author, publisher, and ISBN...) as well as the movie version. The
movie is available on video. If you're going to run a Haiti
chronicle, this is the thing to hunt down. Probably good for
general inspiration on Vodun-type stuff.
"In Search Of..." A 1970's era TV series narrated by Leonard
Nimoy. When not looking for things like Vincent Van Gogh's life
and the Lindbergh baby, it gets into neat mystical stuff that is
*very* informative. These give good background for World of
Darkness type subjects. It is currently running in hour-long
blocks (two episodes) on Arts and Entertainment (cable)
Monday-Friday at 8:00 AM and 7:00 PM Eastern time. I think
there's a weekend show too but I don't remember offhand.
Also, Ted Turner seems to have rights to several movies from
the seventies dealing in "paranormal" phenomena and shows them on
either TBS or TNT occasionally.
In the realm of fiction, there's "The X Files" also on Fox,
9:00 PM Eastern Fridays. I haven't actually seen it, but have
heard so much about it... It works from the perspective of the
FBI, so it might contain inspiration for a Hunter chronicle,
among other things. If I recall correctly, this is doing pretty
well in the ratings, and may stick around for at least a couple
of years, keeping in mind that this kind of thing usually dies a
quick death on TV.