From: Jason Mulligan <[s--li--o] at [test.com]> Newsgroups: rec.games.frp.misc Subject: ICE Chapter 7...more info Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 14:01:25 +1100 Here's some further info regarding ICE that turned up on the RM list. Date: 27 Oct 2000 16:57:48 -0400 From: "The Roach" <[r--a--h] at [gmx.at]> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 22:51:09 +0200 Subject: Talk with Pete Fenlon Message-Id: <[E 13 pGW 2 0004 bl 00] at [post.mail.nl.demon.net]> Hi. I spoke to Pete Fenlon today during the Essen Game Fair. I thought it might be interesting for you to learn what he had to say, and I got his permission to tell :-) The "straw that broke the camel's back" was, according to Pete, not so much Tolkien, but a problem with the licensee for "Dark Age of Camelot". I.C.E. had been making small winnings, and was mostly on track with their restructuring (which was supposed to take 5 years). But, when the licensees defaulted on an instalment payment for the license, I.C.E. was forced to throw what little winnings they had had against the open payments, and then decided that, much as they would have loved to continue, it simply wasn't worth the trouble, with results being too small compared to the effort. Though I asked him outright, Pete did not say anything about whether Tolkien Enterprises had achieved a judge's order before threatening the banks, though it was clear that the banks _were_ intimidated, and that also was part of the "too much effort, too little result". Pete hadn't yet heard about the push for a fandom movement to buy the rights to RoleMaster and open source it, though he seemed impressed and said it would be a nice thing to do. He then said that he'd hate to see RoleMaster just curl up and die, as he was part of the group that, years ago, created the system for their own roleplaying pleasure. All in all, I found Pete (Hi, when you're back and read this) to be an affable fellow, easy to talk to, and the way he behaved (especially considering he was under double stress - meetings at the fair, and the development of the chapter 7) made me wish I could have been in that austere gaming group years ago :-) So much for now, I thought you might be interested to hear this.