From: [e--ot--i] at [merle.acns.nwu.edu] (Edward Zotti) Newsgroups: alt.fan.cecil-adams,sci.med Subject: Smoking deaths among WW2 vets: request for comments Date: 4 Jun 94 03:42:25 GMT The following contains some possibly dubious statistical conclusions. Comments appreciated. For a newspaper column. Straight Dope 6-10-94 Copyright 1994 Chicago Reader The 50th anniversary of D-Day leads me to ask a timely question. Many American men began smoking while serving in the armed forces in WWII. The Red Cross even distributed free cigarettes to the troops. Most of these men became addicted to cigarettes, smoked throughout their lives, and now many have died of smoking-related illnesses. I wonder if more men have died from smoking connected with their WWII service than died as battle casualties in that war? --Bill Phillips, Seattle, Washington Cecil originally had the idea he could turn up the answer to this excellent question with five minutes of rummaging in the Straight Dope archives, thereby enabling him to achieve one of his life's dreams: a timely question that actually got a timely response. When I got to the vault, however, I discovered that the carpenter ants had made mincemeat of the papyrus. Not a problem, I blithely thought. I'll merely tap into the nation's vast biomedical data apparatus, which consisted of calling everybody I could think of that would possibly know about this. Just to impress you with the thoroughness with which we at the Straight Dope pursue these things, I will tell you that I called the National Cancer Institute, the American Lung Association, the National Heart Lung and Blood Institute, the Veterans Administration, the American Cancer Society, the Center for Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, the National Center for Health Statistics, the Metropolitan Life Insurance Company, and the federal Office of Smoking and Health. Result: nothing, although if I were younger and lived in the 404 area code I might have asked the woman at the OSH for a date. One researcher I spoke to did venture that smoking- related deaths among WWII vets could probably be computed, but it would take six months. Plenty fast if you're funded by the government, I thought, but I'm on deadline. I retired to the library to see what I could scare up with a little common sense and the World Almanac, supplemented as necessary by the medical journals. I learned that 14.9 million people served in the U.S. armed services during WWII. I then made some simplifying assumptions: (a) all 14.9 million were male, and (b) they were statistically reflective of U.S. men as a whole, meaning that half smoked (as of 1965, anyway) and the typical smoker had 20 or fewer cigarettes a day. I then applied an estimate from an article entitled "What Are the Odds That Smoking Will Kill You?" (Mattson et al, American Journal of Public Health, April 1987): at age 35, the chances of a moderate smoker (fewer than 25 cigarettes a day) dying of a smoking-related disease by age 65 are 8.7 percent. The youngest WWII vets today are past retirement age, so if Mattson and friends are right, smoking to date has killed at least 648,000. Total U.S. battle deaths during WWII: 292,131. You realize that from the standpoint of statistical reliability, the preceding is about one jump ahead of a Ouija board. On closer analysis, which I fully expect some nitpicker to provide, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that I was off by a factor of 2 in either direction. Also, my assumption that vets were statistically indistinguishable from U.S. men as a whole makes hash out of your premise, namely that WWII service per se was the main thing that got many guys smoking. (For what it's worth, the war definitely boosted national smoking overall-- per capita cigarette consumption rose faster during the early 1940s than at any time before or since.) The war certainly killed people faster than cigarettes. But you can make the argument that in the interest of keeping down the body count long term maybe we should have heavied up on the Doublemint and nixed the Lucky Strike. --CECIL ADAMS