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From: [p c k] at [acsu.buffalo.edu] (P. C. Kilinskas)
Subject: N20 (reasonably safe) was: Nitrous oxide (DOES kill nerve cells!)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 17:46:40 GMT

[c h ris] at [hacktic.nl] (chris) writes:

>damage! It irreveribly inactivates the vitamin B12 containing enzyme
>methionine synthase, which leads to neurologic symptoms. Several reports

"Irreversible" is a misleading term, since it refers to the change to a 
particular enzyme, and not the human being.   This was clipped from a.d
awhile back, and includes a reference:

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Basically, B12 is a bound coenzyme of methionine synthase and has a 
tetrapyrrole rings with a monovalent cobalt at the center.  The cobalt
functions as a methyl carrier in a transmethylation reaction.  Nitrous
oxide converts the cobalt from the monovalent form to the bivalent
form.  As a result, methionine synthase activity is inhibited.  Recovery
is believed to require absorption of new unoxidized B12 (and synthesis
of new apoenzyme).

Humans seem to be far more resistant to complications from this than rodents.
I don't have the energy to go through the various published studies at
this point, so I will quote from Nunn's "Clinical Aspects of the Interaction
Between Nitrous Oxide and Vitamin B12" (1987), _Br. J. Anaesth._ 59: 3-13.

	It seems likely that in man, in contrast to the rat, exposure
	of less than 30 minutes will not cause any measurable change in
	methionine synthase activity.  In combination with a wealth of
	clinical experience, this suggests that there is no special
	hazard for short exposures to nitrous oxide.  There is a variable
	response to exposures lasting between 30 minutes and 2 h.  However,
	it now seems likely that exposures of more than 2 h are likely
	to cause intereference with hepatic methionine synthase
	activity.  The paucity of human data makes it more difficult to
	say how long an exposure is required to cause significant
	intereference with DNA synthesis.  It is likely that there will
	be considerable individual variation and results obtained in
	healthy patients cannot be extrapolated to the patient
	who is seriously ill.  Nevertheless, it seems likely that,
	once methionine synthase activity is inhibited, it will remain
	so for days.

With respect to repeated exposures to nitrous, be aware that this effect
can build up (Nunn gives "intervals of less than 3 days" as a cut-off).
So, go easy on the "hippie crack," people!

Mandatory nitrous horror story:  Layzer (in (1978) "Myeloneuropathy after 
prolonged exposure to nitrous oxide," _Lancet_ 2:1227) reports a case of
15 people who had been inhaling nitrous oxide for long periods of time
and developed a condition resembling subacture combined degneration of
the cord, whatever that means.

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N2O has not been shown to be dangerous in small (i.e. "whippit") amounts.

Phil
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From: [c h ris] at [hacktic.nl] (chris)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nitrous Oxide Dangers
Date: 12 Jan 1994 21:52:13 +0100
Summary: 2 case reports of neurological damage due to nitrous oxide

NITROUS   DOES IT KILL BRAIN CELLS?

In an earlier post I mentioned some scientific reports on the possible
dangers of prolonged exposure to nitrous oxide.
This elicited some reactions that focus around the definition of "prolonged
exposure". How much nitrous taken in how much time will rot your nerves?

To get an idea i will transcribe two case reports from a more recent
nitrous horror story. At the same time it will give you an idea what
"neuropathy" and "myeloneuropathy" looks like and what signs to watch out
for when you are a nitrous regular.

From: Stacey et.al (1992) " Methionine in the treatment of nitrous oxide
induced neuropathy and myeloneuropathy" Journal of Neurology 239:401-403.

Case 1 (quote)

This 36-year old electrical engineer came to the emergency room complaining
that he was unable to walk. Symptoms had begun 4 days earlier with "pins
and neeedles" in both feet that gradually worsened and ascended to involve
the knees and the fingertips. With worsening of the paresthesias (-no sense
of touch or pain-) he noted difficulty in maintaining proper control of the
movements of his arms and hands and trouble in walking. He also reported
the sensation of electric shocks through his back and legs upon flexion of
the neck. He denied bladder or bowel impairment but he had been unable to
have an erection for the past week. His past medical history was unremarka-
ble except for occasional abuse of alcohol in the past. However he denied
any drinking of alcohol for the past 8 months.
For recreational purposes he had inhaled two to three boxes of nitrous
oxide, each box containing 24 cartridges, practically every day for the
past six months. 
When first seen his general physical examination was completely unremarka-
ble. The neurological examination showed hyperesthesia and hyperalgesia in
the lower extremities up to the knees. He had severe bilateral sensory
dystaxia and could only stand with support. 
(-More Neurological and Blood statistic Stuff Deleted- ed.).
Intramuscular B12 injections were started and during the following days his
hematological status inproved, (-apart from neurological symptoms, the
functional B12 deficiency caused by N2O also produces megaloblastic
anemia,- ed.)  although his neurological condition continued to deteriora-
te. The paresthesias ascended to the nipples and he developed fecal and
urinary incontinence. (- stuff deleted-)
Four weeks later he began to improve and four months after the onset of the
symptoms, and his last use of nitrous oxide he could walk with some
hesitation and had completely regained bowel and bladder control and sexual
function (-stuff deleted-).

Case 2

This 32 year old woman was admitted tho the neurology service for inability
to walk and paresthesias in her limbs and trunk. Her symptoms began 3 weeks
prior to admission with a "tingling" sensation in the soles of her feet,
trunk and hands. Her gait bexcame progressively less steady and the day
prior to admission she had an episode of urinary incontinence.
Her past medical history was significant for bulimia and occasional
intranasal use of cocaine. for the previous 3 months she had inhaled
nitrous oxide for recreational purposes, up to 200 cartriges a day, three
to four times a week.
(-stuff deleted, similar neurological signs as above, some antisocial
behavior).
(end quote)

What this shows is that these people really did a lot of nitrous, say 300-
400 cartridges a week, for a few months in a row to develop these really
nasty symptoms. But it also shows that people who do such things do exist
( can you believe it?)

For the really health conscious among you (a contradiction in terms?) if
you "must" do nitrous for a longer period be sure to take high doses of
folic acid (is also depleted from your body as a result of functional B12
deficiency ) and vitamin B12. (No injury NOT guaranteed, but it might help)

Also, but less well known, the state of B12 deficiency caused by
regular use of nitrous oxide produces hyperhomocysteinemia, an accumulation
 in the blood of the amino acid homocysteine.
Hyperhomocysteinemia is a risk factor for vascular disease of all sorts.
Furthermore, hyperhomocysteinemia, B12 deficiency and folic acid deficiency
early in pregnancy all increase the risk of getting a child with a neural
tube defect (spina bifida and anencephaly, childeren with no brains or open
spinal cord). If you are a woman, planning to get pregnant or just "at risk
of getting pregnant", nitrous is a bad idea. 
If youre interested in this literature contact me. 

More literature on neurological aspects of nitrous use:

Pulsson (1979) "Recreational" misuse of nitrous oxide, 
J. Am Dent. Soc. 98:410-411
Sahenk et al.(1978) "Polyneuropathy from inhalation of N2O cartridges 
through a whipped cream dispenser" Neurology 28:485-487.

Chris ( [c h ris] at [hacktic.nl] )