From: [collin 99] at [ix.netcom.com] (Larry Collins)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,talk.politics.misc,tx.guns
Subject: Re: Repeal the 2nd Amendment
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 04:19:34 GMT

[j--lv--r] at [texoma.net] (Joe Sylvester) wrote:
>In article <[Pine A 32 3 93 961009193323 80998 D 100000] at [mustique.u.arizona.edu]>, 
>[m s hook] at [U.Arizona.EDU] says...
>>No neutering necessary. No matter how much you pout and whine and stamp
>>your feet, there is still NO absolute right to keep and bear arms in the
>>Constitution. The second amendment puts the right to form a
>>"well-regulated militia" in the handss of the nation, state and community,
>>and not the government. That's all... "The people" does not mean the same
>>as "persons"...
>Ok, I'll remind you of that when the police, or federal agents, break down 
>your door, sans warrant, take your property,  try to send you to prison based 
>on the items seized. Since "the people" in the 4th amendment does not mean the 
>same as "persons", you can't object because you have no individual right to be 
>free from unreasonable searches and seizures. Only the states and the comunity 
>have that right. I guess that means they can't pull the same routine at the 
>community center, the city hall, the county courthouse, or offices of the 
>state governments, but at *your* house or business, it's just fine. 

Today, in South San Antonio, a drug task force team, consisting of
SAPD, DPS, and Texas Rangers broke down the door in the early morning
hours, and utterly ransacked the house.

They took 3 pagers, a computer, and a couple of cameras. 

To cap it off, the owner's 15-year-old neice was in the shower at the
time and an officer burst in on her, ripped down the shower curtain,
and when she asked if she could cover herself with a towel, he told
her to sit down just like she was. Then he stayed in there with her
while the rest of the team ransacked the house.

The owner says that nobody there deals drugs, or even uses them, and
the drug dog didn't find anything either.

If you or I went into the bathroom with a 15-year old girl and forced
her to remain in the room naked with us, I have to think someone would
be calling us some really nasty names, maybe something like "Child
Molester". 

This was on the TV news about 15 minutes ago, and they said that "If
the warrant was valid" they had no recourse against the officers.

Another example of personal constitutional freedoms being sacrificed
to The War On Drugs.