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Subject: CLINTON: Q&A After Forest Announcement 7.1.93
Date: 2 Jul 1993 09:10:27 -0400
	     


                           THE WHITE HOUSE

                    Office of the Press Secretary
______________________________________________________________
For Immediate Release                               July 1, 1993     

	     
                      REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT,
      THE VICE PRESIDENT, SECRETARY OF INTERIOR BRUCE BABBITT,
                SECRETARY OF AGRICULTURE MIKE ESPY, 
                  SECRETARY OF LABOR ROBERT REICH,
                  SECRETARY OF COMMERCE RON BROWN,
                EPA ADMINISTRATOR CAROL BROWNER     
                       IN FOREST ANNOUNCEMENT
	     
	     
                   Old Executive Office Building  
	     
	     
10:34 A.M. EDT
	     
	     
	     THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Today, President Bill Clinton is 
demonstrating his commitment to the people, the communities, the 
economy and the environment of the Pacific Northwest and northern 
California with a balanced, comprehensive and innovative plan.
	     
	     Where past administrations created confusion and 
controversy by ducking the tough decisions and allowing gridlock to 
remain in place, President Clinton is providing leadership and 
showing real courage by taking action.  These are difficult, complex 
issues.  We knew that from the beginning.  But the President did not 
shy away from them.  President Clinton recognized that for the future 
of the Northwest United States these issues had to be confronted 
boldly and resolved, so we can put the past behind us and move on to 
the future.
	     
	     That's why the President brought hundreds of people 
together at the Forest Conference in Portland.  That's why he has 
directed his administration to work together with him, benefitting 
from the advice and views of so many people from across the region, 
representing every possible perspective to carefully craft the plan 
that he will announce today in a few moments.
	     
	     I'll let the President tell you about his plan.  But 
before he does, I want to make sure that everyone here today and all 
those who share our commitment to resolving these issues in a fair 
and balanced way recognizes the change and progress that this plan 
represents.  President Clinton's plan offers an innovative and 
comprehensive approach to forest management that combines real 
environmental protection with an all-out commitment to economic 
development and growth in a total package that concentrates on the 
economy of the Northwest.
	     
	     A healthy forest economy demands healthy forests.  And 
the President's plan ensures both.  For the families and communities 
in the region, the President's plan offers significant new economic 
and job opportunities.  For businesses and industry, it offers 
critical assistance to create jobs and grow, particularly in 
expanding industries like secondary wood manufacturing.  And for the 
environment, it offers a valuable new perspective focused on 
protecting critical water supplies and the most valuable old-growth 
forests and allowing for new environmental research and 
experimentation and job-creating investments in ecological 
restoration.
	     
	     This plan reflects the best work of scores of economists 
and scientists and experts from across the government and across the 
region, and a commitment to follow existing laws.  It has benefitted 
greatly from the input of all those consulted -- members of Congress, 
representatives of business, industry, labor, environmental 
organizations, tribes, governors, state government officials, and 
local government.  The Forest Conference brought all sides together 
in recognition of the need for action and an end to divisiveness and 
controversy.
	     
	     That spirit of cooperation and commitment to the people, 
the economy and the environment of the region must continue now as we 
work together to replace the policies of the past with a plan for the 
future that offers critical assistance now.  President Clinton is 
committed to that goal.  That's why he has shown the courage and 
innovation in announcing this plan today.
	     
	     It is now my pleasure and honor to introduce the 
President of the United States Bill Clinton.  (Applause.)
	     	  
	     THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you very much.  Ladies and 
gentlemen, this issue has been one which has bedeviled the people of 
the Pacific Northwest for some years now.  It has been one that has 
particularly moved me for two reasons:  First of all, because so many 
people in that part of the country brought their concerns to me in 
the campaign on all sides of this issue -- the timber workers and 
companies, the environmentalists, the Native Americans, the people 
who live in those areas who just wanted to see the controversy so 
they could get on with their lives.  And secondly, because I grew up 
in a place with a large timber industry and a vast amount of natural 
wilderness, including a large number of national forests.  So I have 
a very close identity with all the forces at play in this great drama 
that has paralyzed the Pacific Northwest for too long.
	     
	     We're announcing a plan today which we believe will 
strengthen the long-term economic and environmental health of the 
Pacific Northwest and northern California.  The plan provides an 
innovative approach to forest management to protect the environment 
and to produce a predictable and sustainable level of timber sales.  
It offers a comprehensive, long-term plan for economic development.  
And it makes sure that federal agencies for a change will be working 
together for the good of all the people of the region.
	     
	     The plan is a departure from the failed policies of the 
past, when as many as six different federal agencies took different 
positions on various interpretations of federal law and helped to 
create a situation in which, at length, no timber cutting at all 
could occur because of litigation, and still environmentalists 
believed that the long-term concerns of the environment were not 
being addressed. 
	     
	     The plan is more difficult than I had thought it would 
be in terms of the size of the timber cuts, in part because during 
this process the amount of timber actually in the forest and 
available for cutting was revised downward sharply, in no small 
measure because of years of overcutting, and in a way that provides 
an annual yield smaller than timber interests had wanted, and a plan 
without some of the protections that environmentalists had sought.  I 
can only say that as with every other situation in life, we have to 
play the hand we were dealt.  Had this crisis been dealt with years 
ago we might have a plan with a higher yield and with more 
environmentally protected areas.  We are doing the best we can with 
the facts as they now exist in the Pacific Northwest.
	     
	     I believe the plan is fair and balanced.  I believe it 
will protect jobs and offer new job opportunities where they must be 
found.  It will preserve the woodlands, the rivers, the streams that 
make the Northwest an attractive place to live and to visit.  We 
believe in this case it is clear that the Pacific Northwest requires 
both a healthy economy and a healthy environment and that one cannot 
exist without the other.
	     
	     I want to say a special word of thanks to the Vice 
President, to the Interior Secretary Bruce Babbitt, to Agriculture 
Secretary Mike Espy, to Labor Secretary Reich, Commerce Secretary 
Brown, Environmental Protection Administrator Browner, Environmental 
Policy Director Katie McGinty, and many others in our administration 
who work together to bring all the forces of the federal government 
into agreement not because they all agreed on every issue at every 
moment, but because they knew that we owed the people of the Pacific 
Northwest at least a unified federal position that would break the 
logjam of the past several years.
	     
	     This shows that people can work together and make tough 
choices if they have the will and courage to do so.  Too often in the 
past the issues which this plan addressed have simply wound up in 
court while the economy, the environment and the people suffered.  
These issues are clearly difficult and divisive; you will see that in 
the response to the position that our administration has taken.  If 
they were easy they would have been answered long ago.  The main 
virtue of our plan besides being fair and balanced, is that we 
attempt to answer the questions and let people get on with their 
lives.
	     
	     We could not, we could not permit more years of the 
status quo to continue where everything was paralyzed in the courts.  
We reached out to hundreds of people, from lumber workers and 
fishermen to environmentalists, scientists, businesspeople, community 
leaders and Native American tribes.  We've worked hard to balance all 
their interests and to understand their concerns.  We know that our 
solutions will not make everybody happy.  Indeed, they may not make 
anybody happy.  But we do understand that we're all going to be 
better off if we act on the plan and end the deadlock and 
divisiveness.  
	     
	     We started bringing people together at the Forest 
Conference in April.  In the words of Archbishop Thomas Murphy then, 
we began to find common ground for the common good.  As people 
reasoned together in a conference room instead of confronting each 
other in a courtroom, they found at least that they shared common 
values:  work and family, faith and a reverence for the majestic 
beauty of the natural environment God has bequeathed to that gifted 
part of our nation.
	     
	     This plan meets the standards that I set as the 
conference concluded.  It meets the need for year-round, high-wage, 
high-skilled jobs and a sustained, predictable level of economic 
activity in the forests.  It protects the long-term health of the 
forests, our wildlife and our waterways.  It is clearly 
scientifically sound, ecologically credible, and legally defensible.  
	     By preserving the forests and setting predictable and 
sustainable levels of timber sales, it protects jobs not just in the 
short term, but for years to come.  
	     
	     We offer new assistance to workers and to families for 
job training and retraining where that will inevitably be needed as a 
result of the sustainable yield level set in the plan; new assistance 
to businesses and industries to expand and create new family wage 
jobs for local workers; new assistance to communities to build the 
infrastructure to support new and diverse sources of economic growth; 
and new initiatives to create jobs by investing in research and 
restoration in the forests themselves.  And we end the subsidies for 
log exports that end up exporting American jobs.
	     
	     This plan offers an innovative approach to conservation, 
protecting key watersheds and the most valuable of our old-growth 
forests. It protects key rivers and streams while saving the most 
important groves of ancient trees and providing habitat for salmon 
and other endangered species.  And it establishes new adapted 
management areas to develop new ways to achieve economic and 
ecological goals, and to help communities to shape their own future.
	     
	     Today I am signing a bill sponsored by Senator Patty 
Murray and Congresswoman Jolene Unsoeld of Washington and supported 
by the entire Northwest congressional delegation to restore the ban 
of export of raw logs from state-owned lands and other publicly owned 
lands.  This act alone will save thousands of jobs in the Northwest, 
including over 6,000 in Washington State alone.  
	     
	     Today, Secretary Babbitt and Secretary Espy are going to 
the Northwest to talk to state and local officials about how to 
implement the plan and give to workers, companies and communities the 
help they need and deserve.  And soon we will deliver an 
environmental impact statement based on the plan to the federal 
district court in Washington State.  We will do all we can to resolve 
the legal actions that have halted timber sales, and we will continue 
to work with all those who share our commitment to achieve these 
goals and move the sales forward.
	     
	     Together, we can build a better future for the families 
of the Northwest, for their children and for their children's 
children.  We can preserve the jobs in the forest and we can preserve 
the forest.  The time has come to act to end the logjam, to end the 
endless delay and bickering and to restore some genuine security and 
rootedness to the lives of the people who have for too long been torn 
from pillar to post in this important area of the United States.
	     
	     I believe this plan will do that, and this 
administration is committed to implementing it.
	     
	     Thank you very much.  (Applause.)
	     	  
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Good morning.  What the President 
has outlined and delivered today is the plan to manage the federally-
owned forests in the Pacific Northwest.  It's not a portion of a 
plan, it's not a piece of a plan, it is the plan.  
	     
	     Now, the option chosen by the President, Option Nine, is 
fundamentally sound.  And the reason for that is that the President 
at the outset laid down two important criteria.  The first was that 
the plan must be developed and the options must be worked out by the 
most competent broad-based group of scientists that we could possibly 
assemble from the Department of Agriculture, the Fish and Wildlife 
Service, the Bureau of Land Management, the Environmental Protection 
Agency, Oregon State University, the University of Washington.  That 
scientific team has done its job and that is certainly the important, 
indispensable beginning point for this plan.
	     
	     The President's second mandate, of course, was that any 
option presented to him for implementation must comply with existing 
law and it is my belief, shared by other members of the Cabinet, that 
the scientific team has put its stamp of approval on Option Nine and 
that it does and will in every respect comply with the law.  
	     
	     Now, from here on, we must begin the arduous important 
process of implementing Option Nine.  And our instructions from the 
President are simply to move as quickly as we possibly can to get 
timber moving in the communities and into the mills.  Now, there are 
still decisions to be made along the way about the exact methodology, 
about whether or not particular features of the plan can stand 
modification as we move toward implementation.
	     
	     What Secretary Espy and myself will be doing, beginning 
today, is moving the Department of the Interior and the Department of 
Agriculture out into the field to prepare sales, to implement sales 
that have been done.  I'm confident that if we move quickly on that 
we can, by a conservative measure, certainly move 2 billion board 
feet from federal land into the communities and the mills of the 
Northwest during the coming year.  
	     
	     And I would only add that as Secretary Espy and I go to 
Portland and Seattle today, it's our intention simply to break the 
gridlock, to invite all of the different groups in the Pacific 
Northwest to sit down with us, not to debate the pros and cons of 
Option Nine, but to move ahead to get the timber moving into the 
mills, to see if we can't, together, find innovative ways, make 
procedural modifications and simply break the gridlock and, at last, 
restore some predictability and some certainty to the future of the 
Pacific Northwest.
	     
	     Thank you.
	     
	     SECRETARY ESPY:  I'd just like to add my voice to others 
and try to add some perspective to this.  Today the President is 
taking a bold and decisive step to move toward a resolution of the 
forest management crisis that really has paralyzed the Pacific 
Northwest.  As Secretary of Agriculture, I agree with this plan.  I 
think that it is fair, balanced, comprehensive, and it is certainly 
responsible.
	     
	     Some will criticize the President for taking this move.  
To the contrary, I believe that he deserves praise for attempting to 
resolve an issue that no previous administration or Congress has been 
willing or able to bring to closure.  So let us not forget what 
brought us here.  
	     
	     Under the Reagan administration, timber harvest in the 
region grew beyond sustainable levels.  Timber cuts were absolutely 
pushed to the limit.  And other nontimber resources suffered.  Under 
President Bush, we just simply saw more of the same; attention only 
to the level of cut and inattention to the levels of consequence.  
Agencies, in response to the problem, acted independently, not 
cooperatively.  Interior fought USDA, USDA fought EPA.  We had no 
union whatsoever.  And while lawsuits brought forestry to a halt, 
President Bush offered no direction and no plan to solve the issue.  
When communities in the region began to feel the effects of the court 
injunctions they asked for financial assistance to weather the storm.  
And, again, the Bush administration refused.  
	     
	     And so, today, we, clearly, are not turning away from 
this challenge.  We're moving forward in a legally responsible and 
scientifically sound way to bring this matter to closure.  And in 
doing so, we will not turn our back on the workers and the 
communities of the region who desperately seek leadership and a 
resolution to this crisis.  
	     
	     So I respectfully suggest that we view this President's 
plan in its proper context.  This is not the end that some critics 
threaten, but a new beginning for the region.  The economic future of 
the rural communities of the Pacific Northwest still rest upon its 
natural resources, but a sustainable economy must have as its basis 
policies that sustain those natural resources.  This plan, the 
President's Forest Management Plan, provides that basis and the 
foundation for a strong and sustainable economy out in the Pacific 
Northwest.  
	     
	     And in conclusion, honestly we have three choices, by my 
view, three options.  The first is simply to do nothing, to allow the 
forces out there to continue to challenge one another, and let the 
whole situation blow up and disintegrate.  Well, ladies and 
gentlemen, that is not leadership. 
	     
	     The other option was simply to stand in a defiant 
swagger and to thumb our nose at a federal district court and perhaps 
to receive a contempt citation in the process.  Well, that certainly 
is not responsible.  
	     
	     So we, in fact, took the third option, the only option, 
by our view.  We're stepping up to the plate, we're taking our best 
swing.  This is leadership, this is responsibility, and this is 
exactly what we're doing.  Thanks.  (Applause.)
	     
	     SECRETARY REICH:  I could stand here and not take any 
heat at all.  (Laughter.)  Let me just say that I want to echo what 
Secretary Babbitt and Secretary Espy have said, but also talk 
specifically about jobs.  Over the last two years, 20,000 jobs, 
timber jobs have been lost in this region -- 20,000 jobs.  That's 
going to end.  This new plan is going to actually create net jobs.  
There will be some dislocations.  Some people, some timber workers 
will continue to lose jobs, nowhere near as many as have been losing 
them before.  But the plan calls for economic development, job 
training, new jobs.  We're going to focus economic development 
assistance and also job training assistance on this area and help 
people get new jobs that pay family wages, good wages.  Jobs in 
environmental remediation, jobs in higher value-added timber 
manufacturing.  Many jobs are out there and potentially available to 
people in this area. 
	     
	     And, in fact, the direction we were going in -- do-
nothing -- not only was it creating no jobs, in fact, destroying a 
lot of jobs -- 20,000 over two years -- but it was also potentially 
destroying a lot of other jobs -- jobs related to preserving that 
environment in the long-term.  And, therefore, we are marking this as 
something of a beginning for the Northwest, hopefully, in terms of 
job-creation.  
	     
	     One thing we've tried to do again is focus all our 
agencies on this task.  It has been difficult, we've overcome, I 
think, or at least partially overcome years and years of agencies 
figuring that they were doing it alone, that their own mission had 
nothing to do with any other agency mission.  And through this 
process the whole, hopefully, is greater than the sum of the parts.  
We have job training, economic development.  We have environmental 
remediation.  We have agencies working together and focusing their 
attention on solving a problem.
	     
	     Everybody's not going to be happy.  In fact, everybody 
is going to be a little bit unhappy and that's what happens when you 
fight hard and work hard for a compromise.  This is a compromise; 
this is the best compromise available.  Any of the options, any of 
the options would have caused some job dislocation.  This is the 
least job dislocation; it is the best in terms of new job net 
creation.  And, therefore, we're very proud of where we're going.
	     
	     The President deserves an awful lot of credit for his 
leadership, his ability to take this on.  Remember, nothing was being 
done.  This was absolute logjam.  The President pulled us together, 
pulled his team together, said get on with it, let's solve this 
problem.  And we're doing it.
	     
	     Thank you.  (Applause.)
	     
	     SECRETARY BROWN:  I'm obviously pleased to join this 
morning with the President and Vice President in announcing a forest 
plan that truly exemplifies the principle of sustainable economic 
growth.  By addressing long-term economic concerns and balancing 
broad environmental needs, the President has indeed created a plan 
that protects jobs and businesses, that furthers environmental goals 
and that enhances the economic diversity of the Pacific Northwest.
	     
	     As the President's representative to lead the federal 
effort to help revitalize California's economy, I am particularly 
gratified that loggers and timber towns in Northern California will 
finally be free of the economic uncertainty that has haunted that 
region for too many years.  
	     
	     For too long the timber industry has been paralyzed by 
federal indecision while competing agencies supported contradictory 
policies and the White House dodged its responsibility.  President 
Clinton has, in fact, acted decisively to end this grIdlock.  The 
President's plan helps put people back to work by allowing 
significant timber sales which are already in the pipeline to go 
forward.  New jobs will, in fact, be created through the expanded 
environmental restoration and research work provided for by the plan, 
by growing eco-tourism and by the job training partnership act.  
Funding for this program, which provides for job search assistance, 
retraining and relocation help, will more than double under the 
President's plan.
	     
	     The President's program helps timber communities by 
eliminating tax breaks for raw log exporters and providing incentives 
for increased domestic processing.  And it helps the timber industry 
by establishing sustainable harvest levels that will ensure long-term 
profitability.  Companies will finally be able to hire and invest 
based on reliable forecasts and predictable harvest levels.   
	     
	     The President's plan establishes a harvest level that 
recognizes the critical importance of the region's timber industry.  
It opens areas to the selective, sustainable harvest that the 
industry, in fact, needs.  And it creates stability and certainty, 
the cornerstone of any business planning that is going to be 
successful.
	     
	     President Clinton's plan also takes into account the 
broader economic needs of the Pacific Northwest.  While his 
innovative management approach protects the salmon and other 
environmentally sensitive industries better than before, the 
President has also provided funding that will speed economic 
diversification of the affected regions. 
	     
	     Economic adjustment funds, worker retraining support, 
infrastructure projects, even a summer jobs program will help lure 
industries to the area and help existing industries expand, diversify 
and, most importantly, put people back to work.
	     
	     I strongly believe that the President's plan will 
ultimately result in a more robust economy in America's timber 
regions.  By furthering both our long-term economic and environmental 
needs, the President has demonstrated once again strong leadership.  
This is the kind of bold response to changing economic circumstances 
the American people voted for last November.  I'm pleased to be here 
with the President and Vice President and my fellow Cabinet members 
to support this courageous and this visionary strategy.  Thank you 
very much.  (Applause.)
	     
	     ADMINISTRATOR BROWNER:  Good morning.  The President has 
just made an announcement that is a courageous step forward for 
environmentally sound forest management.  Under the President's 
leadership, five agencies that have been suing each other and using 
their resources to fight each other in court have been able to come 
together to work on a plan and to put forward a plan that will really 
do right by the environmental system and the people of the Northwest.
	     
	     At the heart of the policy that's being announced today, 
and what makes this approach so novel and important is the protection 
of watersheds.  Watersheds are the critical environmental component.  
By protecting the watersheds, we are protecting rivers, streams, the 
viability of the old-growth forests and the species dependent upon 
these natural systems.  And, most importantly, we will avoid future 
confrontation over individual species, like the salmon.  By putting 
together a watershed protection plan, we will be able to avoid the 
haggling that has gone on for far too long.  
	     
	     The other thing that will occur because of the watershed 
protection focus is that cities may realize a real cost, real dollar 
savings.  The city of Portland, who is, I think, looking at almost a 
$200-million bill for a filtration system on their drinking water 
system, may not have to spend that $200 million on filtration; they 
may be able to spend it on something else.  Why?  Because we're going 
to go upstream, we're going to make sure that the watershed is 
protected and that the quality of the water coming to the city is 
such that they don't have to filter it and spend that money.
	     
	     The President has been able to see the forest, not just 
the trees.  And we at EPA look forward to working with our colleagues 
across the federal government in the implementation of this milestone 
resolution.  We are very pleased to have been part of all the 
discussions.  We think it is a sound and important environmental 
step.  And we will work our best to see it implemented in a way that 
is good for everybody.  Thank you.  (Applause.)
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Okay, if there are any questions 
we'll split them up and pass them around and see what we can do.
	     
	     Q	  Secretary Babbitt, the 2 billion board feet that 
you were talking about I think would be triple or more of what has 
been -- while the injunction has been in place.  Environmentalists 
say that's way beyond sustainability.  Secondly, is there anything in 
the plan that would meet the environmentalists' concern about setting 
aside as permanent protective reserves sections of the forest that 
would be off limits to logging, including salvage, thinning and any 
other practice?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Well, with respect to the projection 
of 2 billion board feet during the coming year, I think it's worth 
remembering that what the scientific team has told us is that under 
the unified forest reserve, there should be a flow of about 12 
billion board feet in a 10-year period, and that leaves a certain 
amount of flexibility with respect to how that's allocated. 
	     
	     There are a variety of other issues here that I think 
are going to give us some flexibility:  a backlogged timber on Indian 
reservations, which has been brought to our attention by the Pacific 
Timber Council of Indian Tribes, and the backlog there is due to our 
inability to do the timber sale preparation; that's something we can 
take care of.  
	     
	     So I think there are a fair number -- obviously, there 
are some sales which are already in the pipeline, which would be the 
first ones that we can break loose.  So I think it's a very realistic 
estimate.  We've heard the concerns of the environmentalists with 
respect to the reserves.  Again, the Unified Forest Plan lays out a 
basic pattern of reserves.  It does allow some forest practices, 
particularly with respect to stands that are less than 120 years that 
are not mature stands.  And I think at this point the important thing 
to say to the timber industry, the communities and the environmental 
groups we're prepared to talk about those things.  The basic Unified 
Forest Plan is now in place, but that doesn't mean that we can't 
modify and perfect it as we go along.
	     
	     Q	  Does the plan allow for higher volume of cutting in 
the first years of the 10-year period and then reduce, or is it 
basically stable at 1.2 billion board feet over the period? 
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  The plan, on its face, speaks of a 
10-year cut within the areas under the planning process of 12 billion 
board feet.  It is our starting assumption that that should be spaced 
in a roughly consistent, sustainable pattern across the 10 years.  
There are a variety of issues outside the plan that I think make it 
possible to bump that figure up considerably, consistent with the 
plan in the immediate future.
	     
	     Q	  The plan talks about watershed protection.  Does 
that include buffers on streams and rivers and on private lands?  And 
if so, how will you accomplish that?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  The important feature of the Unified 
Forest Reserve Plan that distinguishes it from some of the other 
alternatives that were considered is that the process of constructing 
the plan began with stream protection, with buffers laid over the 
entire stream system on federal lands.  The width of those buffers 
varies by three criteria:  whether or not the streams have salmon in 
them or other fish, steelhead or others, at this time, or whether or 
not they're permanent streams, somewhat less protection for 
intermittent streams.  So it is a very comprehensive process.
	     
	     With respect to private lands, which I know is of 
particular interest in Washington, I think there's some good news in 
this forest plan because it will allow us for the most part to lift 
the owl circles on the private lands -- not everywhere, but I think 
in some large measure.  So the private landowners will have a great 
deal of flexibility and benefit from this plan.  
	     
	     Those issues will be worked out, according to what's 
known as a 4D rule under the Endangered Species Act.  But I think the 
plan legitimately seeks to provide as much freedom as is consistent 
with the overall legal objectives on private lands.
	     
	     Q	  Will there be buffers on private lands or around 
streams?
	     
	     THE VICE PRESIDENT:  We're still talking about that.
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  The answer is, we're going to sit 
down in Seattle and Portland and discuss it.
	     
	     Q	  Mr. Secretary, are you going to ask Judge Dwyer to 
lift the injunction immediately in July, or will that not happen 
until the end of the year?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  No, no, we will proceed on expedited 
track of a draft report and ask the judge to lift the injunction.  
	     
	     Q	  Based on a draft environmental impact statement?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Absolutely.
	     
	     Q	  Other than the bill that President Clinton said he 
was going to sign -- will any other parts of this plan proceed 
legislatively?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Well, I think that the economic 
package, which Secretary Reich can discuss to the extent you want to 
follow it up, certainly presupposes some congressional action.  I 
think that's very likely.
	     
	     Q	  If I may follow.  But aside from funding, you're 
not asking Congress for anything and will go ahead with or without 
their blessing?  You don't want fast track authority or anything like 
that?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  There are two separate issues here.  
One is the plan itself.  Now, you've heard very clearly from the 
President his intention to direct the departments to prepare that 
plan and submit it administratively back into the judicial process.  
That reflects our view that that is the most expeditious, fastest, 
direct route to getting timber flowing into the mills.
	     
	     Now, with respect to the procedural issues, that is how 
do we expedite the process of getting from here to there - I think 
that is something we want to sit down and begin discussing with all 
the parties -- the parties to the litigation, the interested parties 
in the Pacific Northwest and all the others.  I'm certain that as of 
today what we're going to begin is to push the administrative 
process.  Now, whether or not that is sufficient I think is something 
that we're going to need to discuss and watch among all the parties.
	     
	     SECRETARY BROWN:  Let me just mention one thing.  We 
haven't spent a lot of time talking about the economic impacts of 
this, and it seems to me one of the most important things that we've 
accomplished here is really encouraging economic diversification and 
economic adjustment and economic growth.  That is one of the key 
points of the plan and strategy, as well as all of what we consider 
to be courageous substantive decisions that were made.
	     
	     I think that this process sets an important example for 
how this administration intends to work together and pull together.  
For years, there's been nothing but conflict between agencies of the 
federal government pulling in opposite directions, not working as 
part of a team.  And here we've taken a very, very complex problem 
with extraordinary leadership from the President of the United 
States, and all of us who have been perceived of in the past as 
representing different kinds of interests in America -- Bob Reich, 
the workers of America and the Secretary of Commerce, business and 
industry, and Secretary Babbitt and Administrator Browner, other 
kinds of interests that were seemed disparate -- are working together 
and are making it come out right; are sitting down and talking and 
coming up with a rational plan, a rational approach to solve a 
difficult problem.
	     
	     I think we're as proud of this -- and the President is 
-- of the process by which we pulled together as a team as we are 
with the very sound kind of substantive judgments that have come out 
of the plan.
	     
	     Q	  Given the thousands of jobs that are being lost, 
would the administration support a ban or tax on private log exports?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Well, the President has addressed 
that issue with specific proposals to remove the subsidies which 
currently operate to unbalance that decision in favor of log exports.  
So at this time, the President's position with respect to private log 
exports is we need to simply level the playing field.
	     
	     Q	  Does the administration know yet where the money is 
going to come from for assistance to the Northwest?
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  The great majority of the billion 
and a half approximate over five years will consist of money which is 
already programmed in the 1994 budget process.  Another piece of it 
will be reprogramming within our budgets and I think there may well 
be some additional on top of that.
	     
	     SECRETARY BROWN:  A good deal of it is going to come 
from the Economic Development Administration, the Commerce 
Department, through the use of media grants.  The purpose of those 
grants are to assist distressed urban and rural communities in 
economic recovery, and we intend to direct and target those grants in 
that way to be helpful to the region that is affected.
	     
	     MS. ROMASH:  There will be a technical briefing after 
this and people will be available to walk through specifically where 
the money comes from and the numbers and all that.
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  What she's really saying is pull us 
off before we get into deep water.  (Laughter.)
	     
	     Q	  Secretary Babbitt, you're going to be in Portland 
later this afternoon.  You're probably going to run into some people 
from some of the timber towns.  You're probably going to run into 
some angry people from some of the timber towns there.  What are you 
going to tell them to expect and what are you going to tell them 
about the disruptions that they're going to have?  They're angry over 
these proposals here.
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  What I intend to say in the timber 
towns of Oregon and Washington is we're going to provide some 
certainty, we're going to lift the injunctions, you're going to have 
a predictable supply of timber, and we're looking at a timber year 
coming up I think conservatively of 2 billion board feet.  Now, 
compared to what's gone on in the last few years, I think that's a 
strong and positive direction.
	     
	     We're going to sit down with those towns and discuss the 
implications of the adapted management areas that are in the Unified 
Forest Plan.  I will remind the towns that the President's proposal 
says that within the adapted management areas all logs must go to 
local communities.  And I think there are a variety of other issues 
in this plan that are going to provide an unexpected amount of hope, 
flexibility, wood earmarked for local mills and local industries that 
don't necessarily appear in the gross figures that come out at the 
very end of the plan.  I think the detail in this case is very 
important.
	     
	     Thank you very much.  Let's take one more.  Why quit 
while you're ahead?  (Laughter.)  Let me take another one.
	     	  
	     Q	  Secretary Babbitt, despite the turnout of 
congressional leaders here today, there were very few representatives 
from the Pacific Northwest, including House Speaker Tom Foley.  Does 
that create problems for you?  They are not particularly fond of the 
plan at all.
	     
	     SECRETARY BABBITT:  Well, I certainly understand that 
and I have had several extensive discussions with the Speaker, 
listening to his concerns.  They're deep, they're heartfelt, they're 
thoughtful.  What I have said to the delegation members and 
especially to the Speaker is that as we move forward with this plan, 
which the Cabinet members and the President feel is the best pathway 
toward getting injunctions lifted and moving back toward some kind of 
normalcy.  We remain willing to listen to new information, to look at 
the procedural aspects of this, to consider to continue to develop 
the adapted management concept, to get back to the backlogs on Indian 
reservations, to tailor the economic assistance.  
	     
	     And, ultimately, I suspect it's inevitable that the 
Speaker and others will express their desire to reexamine the 
statutes, and there are many of them, governing these processes.  
And, of course, that is their prerogative and I'm sure that during 
the coming years we'll be discussing that.  In the meantime, what we 
have to do is end the impasse.  And I think that in the next few 
years we're going to get a really good result with a really 
substantial amount of timber flowing in and that's the very best 
course of action at this point.
	     
	     Thank you very much.  

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