From: "Julius Chang" <[p 00302] at [psilink.com]>
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Gun storage (safes)
Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:06:29 -0400
In-Reply-To:    <[behCqvp 8 v D w q] at [netcom.com]>

I called some manufacturers and got the following info:

- National Security (800-544-3829):
	* hardplate of mild steel, heat treated to Rockwell C
	  hardness 62, 1/8" to 5/8" thick depending on safe
	  model

	* lifetime warranty covers successful attacks only

- Treadlok (800-729-8732):
	* hardplate 63 HRC, 3/8" thick

	* lifetime warranty covers successful attacks only

- Liberty (800-247-5625):
	* hardplate 60 HRC, 1/2" thick

	* lifetime warranty covers successful attacks only

- Ft. Knox (800-821-5216):
	* hardplate 55-60 HRC, but includes recessed ball bearings
	  embedding in holes drilled into the hardplate before
	  heat treating (the ball bearings stop drill bits by
	  spinning)

	* drill deflector to protect the locking bolts
		* the thief drills a hole in the safe side
		  and tries to punch the locking bolts to force
		  them open

	* lifetime warranty covers any attack that causes damage

- Amsec (800-423-1881):
	* Amsec person didn't have specific info on the hardplate
		* he said it is identical to hardplate in another
		  safe model and that one has 60 HRC (thickness unknown)

	* UL listing is a Residential Security Container rating, not
	  a commercial TL rating
		* rep couldn't explain the difference

	* Amsec makes and sells lots of different safes
		* models with TL15, TL30, TRTL30 ratings available
		* fire ratings up to 2 hr. at 1850 F with interior
		  temp below 350 F

	* warranty for 1 year only, covers only defects, not
	  burglary damage

-Julius