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Subject: Waiting periods for purchasing alcohol?
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 17:30:09 GMT


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          "What's The Big Deal About Waiting Periods?"
                        by Clayton Cramer

  In  my  experience,  most Americans recognize  that  there  are
legitimate reasons to own a gun, and know better than to  believe
that  gun prohibition is an effective strategy for reducing  gun-
related  crimes.   But there is a gap between the  ardent  Second
Amendment defender and the average American, skillfully exploited
by  the  gun prohibitionists, when waiting periods and background
checks are suggested.  "What's the problem?  Can't you wait a few
days to buy a gun?"
  Unfortunately,  principled defenses of the right  to  keep  and
bear  arms  play  into  the hands of the gun prohibitionists,  by
making our side appear extreme and uncompromising.  Here's a more
effective  argument:  ask  them to  apply  the  waiting  periods,
background  checks,  and  private sale prohibitions  to  alcohol,
which causes twice as many deaths each year as firearms.  Imagine
a newspaper ad like the one below:

                                
                                
                 It's Time To Stop The Killing!


       In  1987,  19,918 Americans were killed  in  alcohol-
  related  traffic  accidents.1  Less  well  known  is  that
  alcohol is a major factor in murder, suicide, rape,  child
  molestation,  and  other crimes  of  violence.   Nearly  a
  third  of  convicted  child molesters  had  been  drinking
  before  the  offense.2   While the exact  percentages  are
       difficult  to determine accurately, it is clear  that
  alcohol is a major factor in spouse and child abuse.3   Of
  convicted  murderers  surveyed  in  1986,  23.6%  admitted
  being  under the influence of alcohol at the time  of  the
  offense,  and  19.0%  were under  the  influence  of  both
  alcohol  and  drugs.  Similar percentages were  found  for
  rape,  robbery, kidnapping, burglary, and arson convicts.4
  That's  more  than  8000 murders a year in  which  alcohol
  played a role!
       Alcohol  is  also a major factor in suicides  in  the
  United  States;  as  much as 80% of suicide  attempts  are
  under  the  influence  of alcohol.5   A  subtler  form  of
  suicide,  alcoholic  cirrhosis,  causes  at  least  11,000
  deaths a year in the United States.6
       In  1977,  alcohol caused between 61,000  and  95,000
  deaths  in  the  U.S.7 -- and alcoholic  mortality  hasn't
  declined   since  then.8   The  economic   cost   to   the
  government,  private insurers, business,  and  individuals
  of  this  human  suffering was estimated  by  the  Federal
  Government  at  $42.7 billion in 19759; no one  can  claim
  that alcohol abuse is a purely private problem.
       Much  of this is the result of minors who buy alcohol
  illegally, and adults who have demonstrated that they can
  not  be trusted to drink responsibly.  Certainly, a person
  with   prior   convictions   for  alcohol-related   crime,
  including  drunk  driving,  should  not  have  access   to
  alcohol.   The  law already prohibits selling  alcohol  to
  those  under  age,  but that's not stopping  the  flow  of
  alcohol  or  the  crimes connected  to  it,  and  the  law
  doesn't  prevent adults with a history of criminal alcohol
  abuse   from  obtaining  it.   If  we  are  serious  about
  reducing  the  horrendous  costs  of  alcohol  crime,  our
  legislators need to pass laws to stop this madness!
       We propose the following:
       1.  Every  alcoholic beverage container will  have  a
  serial  number, so that those who illegally  sell  alcohol
  can be identified and prosecuted.
       2.  All  sales of alcohol will require the  buyer  to
  provide  his  name,  address,  physical  description,  and
  driver's  license number on a Dealer Record of Sale  form.
  False  IDs  have long been used by minors to buy  alcohol,
  so  this  information will be verified before the sale  is
  completed.
       3.   To  discourage  people  who,  in  a  moment   of
  depression,  buy  a bottle, and commit suicide  under  the
  influence  of  alcohol, there will be a 15  day  "cooling-
  off"   period,  during  which  the  buyer's  ID  will   be
  verified, as discussed in #2.
       4.  Most  adults  have  been approached  by  a  minor
  outside  a  liquor store, asking them to buy alcohol.   By
  requiring  full identification, and the serial  number  of
  the  container  to  be purchased at the beginning  of  the
  waiting period, the legitimate buyer won't be able to  add
  a six-pack to his order on the spur of the moment.
       5.  Unregistered private party transactions  will  be
  prohibited.  Adults may transfer an alcoholic beverage  to
  another adult through a licensed alcohol dealer after  the
  fifteen day waiting period and background check.
       6.  Possession of an alcoholic beverage in  a  public
  place,  except  while in transit to  or  from  a  licensed
  alcohol dealer with the package securely wrapped, will  be
  illegal, since at any time, the temptation to whip  out  a
  six-pack,  get drunk, and ram a school bus full  of  kids,
  seems to be more than many Americans can control.
       7.  To  show that we consider alcohol crime  serious,
  unregistered  sales  of  alcohol will  be  a  misdemeanor;
  possession of alcohol in a public place, except  while  in
  transit,  will  be a misdemeanor or felony,  depending  on
  prior convictions.
       8.  Alcoholic beverages so high in alcohol content as
  to  have  no legitimate dietary purpose, such as  whiskey,
  gin,  or  rum,  will  require  a  permit  from  the  state
  Attorney-General,  which will only  be  issued  for  "non-
  personal, commercial" uses (TV & film production).   There
  is  no legitimate purpose to such drinks -- they exist for
  one  purpose only -- getting drunk.  Unlicensed possession
  or  sale of these beverages will be a felony -- up to  one
  year  in jail for unlicensed possession in a public place,
  or  second offense possession in your home, and a  minimum
  of  four  years  in prison for unlicensed sale.   Existing
  owners  of  these "assault beverages" will be  allowed  to
  keep  them,  provided they are registered with the  state,
  but no new ones will be allowed to be sold.
       9.   Police  departments,  the  state  Department  of
  Justice,  and  other public agencies, will  of  course  be
  completely   exempt   from   these   restrictions,   since
  politicians  and  police officers do  not  abuse  alcohol,
  except in the public interest.
       Some will argue, "I drink responsibly.  Why should  I
  be   penalized   because  a  few  alcohol   users   become
  criminals?"    But   these  aren't   penalties   --   just
  reasonable  controls on alcohol.  You can still  get  beer
  for your party -- just plan ahead.
       Some  will  argue that this elaborate record  keeping
  scheme  is  a  waste of time, since when an alcohol  crime
  takes  place, the bottle is seldom recovered, and  only  a
  tiny  number  of  "alcohol criminals" will be  prosecuted.
  But  without the threat of prosecution, who will obey  the
  law?
                      Alcohol Control, Inc.

            Keeping alcohol "out of the wrong hands".

  

  No  rational  person would consider this a  reasonable  way  to
fight  alcohol  abuse -- but go back through  this  proposal  and
substitute  the  word  "firearm" for "alcohol"  --  and  this  is
already  the law regulating firearms in California.  Your  state,
or perhaps the entire country, will be next.
  Most  gun  owners support reasonable restrictions  on  firearms
sales; we don't want criminals or crazies to have access to guns.
Indeed,  most  gun  owners would have no  objection  to  firearms
registration,  if  there were not a small but  vocal  faction  in
America  that  supports  registration as  a  first  step  towards
confiscation.   But  when "gun control" is  given  a  far  higher
priority  than  "alcohol  control" by  the  news  media  and  the
politicians, it's hard to believe that public safety is the  real
goal behind these efforts.
  There  is  one big difference between alcohol and guns  --  ten
thousand  six-packs of beer in student hands in Tiananmen  Square
wouldn't  have  made  any difference; ten thousand  rifles  might
have.
--------------------------  
  Clayton   Cramer  is  a  software  engineer  with  a   Northern
California  manufacturer  of telecommunications  equipment.   His
first book, By The Dim And Flaring Lamps: The Civil War Diary  of
Samuel McIlvaine was published in 1990.
  

_______________________________
  1  Terry  S.  Zobeck, et. al., Trends in Alcohol-Related  Fatal
Traffic  Crashes,  United  States:  1977-1987,  (Rockville,   MD:
National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, August 1989),
p. 17.
  2  Judy  Roizen,  "Estimating Alcohol  Involvement  in  Serious
Events"  in Alcohol Consumption and Related Problems, (Rockville,
MD: National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism, 1983), p.
210.
  3 Ibid., pp. 208, 210-211.
  4   Correctional  Populations  in  the  United  States,   1986,
(Washington, DC: Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1989), p. 39.
  5  Fifth  Special Report to the U.S. Congress  on  Alcohol  and
Health,  (Rockville, MD: National Institute on Alcohol Abuse  and
Alcoholism, 1984), p. xx.
  6 Ibid., p. xvii.
  7   Henry   Malin,   Judith  Coakley,  Charles   Kaelber,   "An
Epidemiological  Perspective on Alcohol  Use  and  Abuse  in  the
United  States"  in  Alcohol Consumption  and  Related  Problems,
(Rockville,   MD:  National  Institute  on  Alcohol   Abuse   and
Alcoholism, 1983), p. 129.
  8 Ibid., p. 99.
  9  Thomas  R.  Vischi, Kenneth R. Jones, et. al., The  Alcohol,
Drug Abuse, and Mental Health National Data Book, (Rockville, MD:
Alcohol, Drug Abuse, and Mental Health Administration, 1980),  p.
96.
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