From: [o--iv--r] at [cs.unc.edu] (Bill Oliver) Newsgroups: misc.writing Subject: Political Use of Gun Control : Intro (Was Re: Fun with Guns) Date: 14 Jun 1995 12:05:59 -0400 In article <3rmopp$[9--7] at [info.usuhs.mil]>, D. Y. <[REDACTED] at [info.usuhs.mil]> wrote: > >What is interesting here is that everyone is giving examples and good >arguments, but so far, I have not seen anyone explain just *Why* the >second amendment (right to bear arms) is in such a promenent place. >The founding fathers of the United States were well educated, and most >certainly knew the workings of rhetoric. So there had to be some >reason for organizing the bill of rights with Freedom of Speech, of >the press, assembly, religion, first, right to bear arms second, and >prohibition of quartering troops third. > I generally do not tend to get involved in gun control debates. However, I get upset when gun-control enthusiasts stereotype those who support second amendment freedoms as stupid, paranoid, violent people who have no intellectual reasoning behind their position. This is profoundly offensive, bigoted, and fundamentally incorrect. Since someone in this group has requested an historical approach to the gun control debate, I am posting this set of references which I wrote up some years ago for a gun control debate which broke out in soc.men. This posting is at least 10 years old, and reflects the times -- Native Americans are referred to as American Indians, and African-Americans as black Americans. I do not wish to offend; this was written while those terms were still politically correct. I have tried to edit out the parts of the posting that were specific to that debate. However, if you see reference to a Mr. Nilges, this was the person to whom I was replying. This section on the political philosopy of gun control is in turn divided into four sections. The first provides a short look at the classical background of republicanism and provides an introduction to what the philosphers who influenced the founding of this nation felt about the control of arms. It will also give examples of the absolutist philosophers who more closely reflect Mr. Nilges position. The second section is an examination of the actual establishment of the Second Amendment, and the political thought involved, with an emphasis on the debate surrounding its ratification. The third is an examination of the use of firearms control laws by the government for specific policy objectives. This is in turn divided into four parts -- the introduction and enumeration of political functions of gun control, examples from the world outside the US, the use of gun control laws for political purposes in the US (specifically to maintain the subservience of blacks), and a list of references. Finally, the fourth part is my conclusion, which attempts to convice that, in fact, there are those of us who oppose restrictive firearms laws who do not do so because we want to kill everybody, but because of specific, and reasonable political philosophy. Bill Oliver