From: [REDACTED] at [hprnd.rose.hp.com] (Steve Kao)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: A probable FAQ
Date: 25 Oct 1993 21:33:03 GMT

More statistics. I said in a previous posting that I would be posting parts 2
and 3. I've decided just to post various relevant statistics as fast as I
can compile and integrate them into meaningful formats. It has all turned out
to be a bigger task than I thought (although much more interesting than I
thought).

I'm trying to orient the postings to the relevant topics of discussion.
So I thought I'd post first on the overall trend in accidental deaths by
guns, then look at suicides, then try to get to the trend in South Carolina.

The following table is derived from three sources:

[4] U.S. Bureau of the Census, "Statistical Abstract of the United States: 1989
    (109th Edition).", Washington, DC, 1989. This is for sale by the
    Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office,
    Washington, DC  20402     (202) 783-3238

[5] U.S. Bureau of the Census, "Historical Statistics of the United States,
    Colonial Times to 1970, Bicentennial Edition, Part 2". Washington, DC 1975.
    This is for sale by the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. Government
    Printing Office, Washington, DC  20402    (202) 783-3238
    Stock number 003-024-00120-9

[6] Statistics Department, National Safety Council. "Accidents Facts 1988
    Edition". National Safety Council.
    444 N. Michigan Avenue, Chicago IL  606111  (800) 621-7619


The specific parts refered to are: [1] page 7, [2] page 10, [3] pages 19-20.


ACCIDENTAL DEATHS BY FIREARM PER 1,000,000 PEOPLE (USA)
-------------------------------------------------------
The overall trend of accidental deaths by firearm in the United States
has been a steady decline since 1933 through 1986. The decline has been
on the order of 4 to 1! I.e., in 1933 we had 24.00 people accidentally
killed by firearms per 1,000,000 people, in 1986 we had 5.74 killed.

I have included the statistics to 1903, the earliest date I have figures
for. However, while these figures support the decline, they all end in 00
(2400, 2800, 2100) which leads me to suspect the accuracy.

In addition, a big drop in 1967 to 1968 (and the 1967 figures themselves)
reflect a change in how accidental deaths are reported. I have no further
reference other than that note in the source material. Based on some
descriptions of the data, it appears that some types of firearm deaths
in an unknown category were moved to murder/manslaughter (suspect freed
on a technicality ???? Your guess).

In any case, the data is outstandingly obvious that accidental deaths by
firearms are in a steady decline. I plotted the data using Microsoft Excel,
and extending the line (remarkably straight since 1946), I expect accidental
deaths by firearms to reach zero by the year 2013!!!

By all means, graph/plot the data. If any wants to, send me a SASE at the
address below and I'll put a copy of the graph in it and mail it back.

Now, I would have like to plot the annual production of firearms. However, I
only have firearms production from 1977 through 1985. Firearms production
has ranged (in those years) from 4.6 million to 5.7 million production. This
is DOMESTIC PRODUCTION ONLY.

I remember reading that (I'm trying to track this down), imports of foreign
semi-automatic rifles went from 30,000 in 1985 to over 800,000 in 1988. I
assume many of those are AK47S Chinese manufacture.

Thus, in the last four years we may have had a large increase to over 6 million
weapons produced/imported, yet the trend in accidental deaths is still going
down (especially sharply in the last four years).

I would thus assert that firearms are inherently safe devices, and that
whatever educational or other forces exist are reinforcing proper handling
of firearms.

One last note -- I'm still trying to figure out how many rounds of ammunition
are produced each year. It struck me that in almost every firearm purchase I've
seen in a gun store, the purchaser almost always buys a box of ammunition.

Thus, in 1984:
    Total handguns produced ... 1,679,709 * 50-round box of ammo = 83,985,450
    Total long guns produced .. 2,966,838 * 20-round box of ammo = 59,336,760

    gives 143,322,210 totals round (probably very low).

    If we assume that they were all expended, this gives us 85,924 rounds
    per each one of the 1,668 people accidently killed by guns in 1984.

    For something "just designed to kill", as I believe Mr. Shallit so
    erroneously asserted, that is one HECK of a lousy design!!!!



	TFAD    = Total Firearms Accidental Deaths
        TFAD/PM = Total Firearms Accidental Deaths Per Million

        Year     Population     TFAD    TFAD/PM
        ----     ----------     -----   -------
        1903     79,163,000     2,500    31.58
        1904     82,166,000     2,800    34.08
        1905     83,822,000     2,000    23.86
        1906     85,450,000     2,100    24.58
        1907     87,008,000     1,700    19.54
        1908     88,710,000     1,900    21.42
        1909     90,490,000     1,600    17.68
        1910     92,407,000     1,900    20.56
        1911     93,863,000     2,100    22.37
        1912     95,335,000     2,100    22.03
        1913     97,225,000     2,400    24.69
        1914     99,111,000     2,300    23.21
        1915    100,546,000     2,100    20.89
        1916    101,961,000     2,200    21.58
        1917    103,268,000     2,300    22.27
        1918    103,208,000     2,500    24.22
        1919    104,514,000     2,800    26.79
        1920    106,461,000     2,700    25.36
        1921    108,538,000     2,800    25.80
        1922    110,049,000     2,900    26.35
        1923    111,947,000     2,900    25.91
        1924    114,109,000     2,900    25.41
        1925    115,829,000     2,800    24.17
        1926    117,397,000     2,800    23.85
        1927    119,035,000     3,000    25.20
        1928    120,509,000     2,900    24.06
        1929    121,767,000     3,200    26.28
        1930    123,077,000     3,200    26.00
        1931    124,040,000     3,100    24.99
        1932    124,840,000     3,000    24.03
        1933    125,579,000     3,014    24.00
        1934    126,374,000     3,033    24.00
        1935    127,250,000     2,799    22.00
        1936    128,053,000     2,817    22.00
        1937    128,825,000     2,576    20.00
        1938    129,825,000     2,726    21.00
        1939    130,880,000     2,618    20.00
        1940    132,122,000     2,375    17.98
        1941    133,402,000     2,396    17.96
        1942    134,860,000     2,678    19.86
        1943    136,739,000     2,282    16.69
        1944    138,397,000     2,392    17.28
        1945    139,928,000     2,385    17.04
        1946    141,389,000     2,801    19.81
        1947    144,126,000     2,439    16.92
        1948    146,631,000     2,191    14.94
        1949    149,188,000     2,330    15.62
        1950    151,684,000     2,174    14.33
        1951    154,287,000     2,247    14.56
        1952    156,954,000     2,210    14.08
        1953    159,565,000     2,277    14.27
        1954    162,391,000     2,271    13.98
        1955    165,275,000     2,120    12.83
        1956    168,221,000     2,202    13.09
        1957    171,274,000     2,369    13.83
        1958    174,141,000     2,172    12.47
        1959    177,073,000     2,258    12.75
        1960    180,671,000     2,334    12.92
        1961    183,691,000     2,204    12.00
        1962    186,538,000     2,092    11.21
        1963    189,242,000     2,263    11.96
        1964    191,889,000     2,275    11.86
        1965    194,303,000     2,344    12.06
        1966    196,560,000     2,558    13.01
        1967    198,712,000     2,896    14.57
        1968    200,706,000     2,394    11.93
        1969    202,677,000     2,309    11.39
        1970    204,879,000     2,406    11.74
        1971    207,661,000     2,360    11.36
        1972    209,896,000     2,442    11.63
        1973    211,909,000     2,618    12.35
        1974    213,854,000     2,613    12.22
        1975    215,854,000     2,380    11.03
        1976    218,035,000     2,059     9.44
        1977    220,239,000     1,982     9.00
        1978    222,585,000     1,806     8.11
        1979    225,055,000     2,004     8.90
        1980    227,757,000     1,955     8.58
        1981    230,138,000     1,871     8.13
        1982    232,520,000     1,756     7.55
        1983    234,799,000     1,695     7.22
        1984    237,001,000     1,668     7.04
        1985    239,279,000     1,649     6.89
        1986    241,613,000     1,600     6.62
        1987    243,915,000     1,400     5.74




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