From: [b--o--h] at [mdd.comm.mot.com] (Greg Booth)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Citizens Self Defense
Date: 3 Jan 1994 09:25:17 -0800



10.	Citizens self defense

o	Kennesaw, Georgia, passed a law *requiring* a head of 
household to have a firearm and ammunition for it. Their crime 
rate dropped to 25 percent of what it had been in the first 
year of that law, and dropped more the second year. It remains 
low even though the population of the city has more than 
doubled since then."Armed and Female" by Paxton Quigley, in 
the chapter titled "The politics of self-defense"."Firearms 
and Violence" by Don B. Kates, Jr.

 "Crime Control through the Private Use of Armed Force" by 
Professor Gary Kleck that appeared in the 2/88 issue of *Social 
Problems*. The American Rifleman had a short review of this article 
in the 7/88 issue entitled: "Armed Citizens & Crime Control" by 
Paul H. Blackman, Ph.D.

The following chart is from the American Rifleman article:

Attack, Injury and Crime Completion Rates in Robbery Incidents

Method of 		% Com- 	% Attacked 	% Injured	Num Times 
Self Protection		pleted
 Used(a)

Used gun		30.9	25.2		17.4		89,009 

Used Knife		35.2	55.6		40.3		59,813 

Used other weapon	28.9	41.5		22.0		104,700 

Used physical force	50.1	75.6		50.8		653,880 

Tried to get help or 
frighten offender	63.9	73.5		48.9		1,516,141 

Threatened or 
reasoned with 
offender		53.7	48.1		30.7		955,398 

Nonviolent resistance, 

including evasion	50.8	54.7		34.9		1,539,895 

Other measures		48.5	47.3		26.5		284,423 

Any self-protection	52.1	60.8		38.2		4,603,671

 No self-protection	88.5	41.5		24.7		2,686,960

Total			65.4	53.7		33.2		7,290,631



Attack, Injury and Crime Completion Rates in Assault Incidents

Method of 	% Attacked 	% Injured	 Estimated 
Self Protection					Num Times Used(a)

Used gun		23.2	12.1		386,083 

Used Knife		46.4	29.5		123,062 

Used other weapon	41.4	25.1		454,570 

Used physical force	82.8	52.1		6,638,823 

Tried to get help 
or frighten offender	55.2	40.1		4,383,117 

Threatened or 
reasoned with offender	40.0	24.7		5,743,008 

Nonviolent resistance,
 including evasion	40.0	25.5		8,935,738 

Other measures		36.1	20.7		1,451,103 

Any self-protection	49.5	30.7		21,801,957 

No self-protection	39.9	27.3		6,154,763

Total			47.3	29.9		27,956,719

Notes: (a) Separate frequencies these columns do add totals in "Any 
self-protection" row since a single criminal incident can involve 
more than self-protection method. Sources: Analysis of incident 
files of 1979-1985 National Crime Survey public use computer tapes 
(ICPSR,1987b). 

"Robbery and assault victims who used firearms for protection were 
less likely to be attacked or injured than victims who responded 
in any other manner. Only 17% of those using guns to resist 
attempted robbery and 12% using guns to resist assault suffered any 
kind of injuries. 25% of robbery victims and 27% of assault victims 
who did not resist were injured anyway."

"...Dr. Kleck estimates annually, "gun-wielding civilians in self- 
defense or some other legally justified cause" kill between 1,500 
and 2,800 felons -- or 2 1/2 to seven times as many criminals as 
are shot dead by police."

"Dr. Kleck estimates "there were about 8,700-16,600 non- fatal, 
legally permissible woundings of criminals by gun armed civilians" 
annually, and "the rest of the one million estimated defensive gun 
uses, over 98% involved neither killings nor woundings but rather 
warning shots fired or guns pointed or referred to."

"Significantly, Dr. Kleck notes that the victimization surveys 
actually exaggerated the association of injury with gun-resistance 
since the surveys generally fail to ask whether the injury occurs 
after and because of resistance or whether the injury occurred 
first. In a supplemental questionnaire, however, it was found that 
most injuries to armed resisters preceded their resistance: "For 
cases involving robbery and attack, forceful self-protection 
actions never preceded the attack ... even the minority of the 
cases where forceful self-protective acts were accompanied by 
attacks on the victim, few incidents support the contention that 
the victim's defensive action provoked the attack."

"As Dr. Kleck puts it in his study: "When victims use guns to resist 
crimes, the crimes usually are disrupted and the victims not 
injured."

o	The NRA/ILA Research & Information Division  (1600 Rhode 
Island Ave., N.W.

o	                                               Washington DC  20036)

o	will provide a pamphlet that reprints the following two 
analyses on the

o	Florida CCW law statistics:

o	

o	Marion Hammer, "Pro-Gun Laws - They Work!"  Guns & Ammo, Nov. 
'91, pp. 22-23  andGary Kleck, excerpt from his book "Point 
Blank: Guns & Violence in America"

o	"Both of these are based on the "Concealed Weapons / Firearms 
License Statistical Report for the Period 10/01/87 - 10/31/
91"  issued by the Florida Department of State's Division of 
Licensing (P.O. Box 6687, Tallahassee, FL 32314-6687).  

o	This one-page report states as follows:

o	

o	112,528   Applications Received

 85,662   New

 26,866   Renewal



109,377   Licenses Issued

 82,756   New

 26,621   Renewal



    768   Applications Denied

    446   Criminal History

    302   Incomplete Application



    167   Licenses Revoked

     66   Clemency rule change or legislative change

     77   Crime after licensure  (10 = firearm utilized)

      6   Crime prior to licensure  (2 = firearm utilized)

     10   Illegible prints with no response

      8   Other

     12   Reinstated (no statistics maintained prior to Jan. 
'90)

----------- These stats are the sum total of the report --
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What this amounts to is the following good news:

167 licenses revoked = .15% (one-sixth of 1%)  of licenses 
issued

    i.e. 15 in 10,000 licenses were revoked

 77 licenses revoked for a crime after licensure = .07% 
(seven hundreths of 1%)

    i.e. only 7 in 10,000 licenses were revoked for a crime

 10 licenses revoked for crime with a gun = .009%  

    i.e. less than 1 in 10,000 licenses were revoked for a 
crime with a gun

See Hammer and Kleck references (above) for more analysis.



o	 "Do you remember Kennesaw, Georgia? In 1982, a municipal 
ordinance was passed requiring every homeowner to own a 
firearm. Since the passage of that act, there has been only 
one homicide in the town, and that did not involve firearms. 
Home burglaries were reduced from 11 per thousand residents 
to three, though the population of the town has nearly 
doubled." [Jeff Cooper, "Cooper's Corner", GUNS & AMMO, Dec. 
91, p. 97]

o	In Portland Oregon in 1989 17 CCW (Carry Concealed Weapon) 
permits were issued, in 1990 2500 CCW permits were issued, in 
1990 the murder rate in Portland DROPPED by 33%."Second 
Amendment Foundation Reporter", Fall 1990 issue. An article 
titled "Research: Portland Concealed Weapons Permits Credited 
With Homicide Reduction" includes the 33% reduction figure.

o	The Gun Culture and Its Enemies" by William R. Tonso notes a 
number of cases where an increase in the number of armed 
citizens decreased the crime rate:

o	 "In Detroit, Michigan, grocery robberies declined 90% after 
a firearms training program for grocers was instituted by a 
grocer's association.

o	 Highland Park, Michigan, police trained storekeepers to shoot 
producing a dramatic decrease in store robberies from 80 in 
the previous four months to none in the subsequent four month 
period.

o	 In New Orleans, Louisiana, pharmacy robberies dropped from 
three per week to three in six months."

o	"In California, statistics prove that every 8 minutes an 
innocent civilian defends his or her own life with a gun." 
[Dr. Jeanne L. Gilkey, "Fight Smart", GUNS & AMMO, Jun. 91, 
p. 95]

o	 In Orlando, Florida, in 1966 a series of brutal rapes swept 
the community. Citizens reacted to the tripling in the rate 
of rape over the previous year by buying handguns for self-
defence; 200-300 firearms were being purchased each week from 
dealers, and an unknown number more from private parties. The 
newspaper there, the _Orlando Sentinel Star_, had an anti-gun 
editorial stance and tried to pressure the local police chief 
and city government to stop the flow of arms.

When that tactic failed, the paper decided that in the interest of 
public safety, they would sponsor a gun- training seminar in 
conjunction with the local police. Plans were made for a one-day 
training course at a local city park.

Plans were made for an expected 400-500 women. However, more than 
2500 women arrived, and brought with them every conceivable kind 
of firearm. They had to park many blocks away, and the weapons were 
carried in purses, paper bags, boxes, briefcases, holsters, and 
womens' hands. One police officer present said he'd never been so 
scared in his life.

Swamped, the organizers hastily dismissed the women with promises 
for a more thorough course with scheduled appointments. The course 
offered was for three classes/ week, and within 6 months, the 
Orlando police had trained more than 6000 women in basic pistol 
marksmanship and the law of self-defense.

The results?

 In 1966 there were 36 rapes per 100,000 people in Orlando, triple 
the 1965 rate. In 1967, there were 4. Before the training, rape 
rates had been increasing in Orlando as nationwide. 5 years after 
the training, rape was still below pre-training levels in Orlando, 
but up 308% in the surrounding areas, 96% for Florida overall, and 
64% nationally.

Also in 1967, violent assault and burglary decreased by 25% in 
Orlando, in addition to the rape reductions.

In 1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD FIRED HER WEAPON in self- defense. 
In 1967, NOT A SINGLE WOMAN HAD TURNED HER GUN ON HER HUSBAND OR 
BOYFRIEND.(No data are available for later years.)

The reason the program worked so spectacularly well is that it was 
widely known that Orlando women had the means and training to 
defend themselves from attackers. Rapists, being (somewhat) human, 
they are learning engines; they took their business elsewhere--to 
the detriment of the defenseless in those other locations

o	"The Factual Foundation for Certain Key Assumptions of Gun 
Control" by Gary Kleck and David Bordua appeared in "Law and 
Police Quarterly" in August 1983. It describes the Orlando, 
Florida women's gun training program which reduced rape rates 
from 35.91 per 100000 population to 4.18 per 100000 in 1967.

"In 1966 in Orlando, Florida, the police embarked on a highly 
publicized firearms training program for 2,500 women in response 
to the rising rape rate. The next year, rape decreased by more than 
80 percent in that area! This sounded almost too good to be true, 
so I tracked down the police chief of Orlando at the time, Carlisle 
Johnstone, and phoned him to discuss what happened. He praised the 
women he had instructed, detailing how not one of the thousands 
they instructed had misused firearms or had any accidents. "The 
rape rate of Orlando decreased because the criminals became aware 
that women were serious about protecting themselves and had an 
effective means of doing so--firearms." [Nancy Bittle, 
"Women...Are You Aware of Your Gun Rights?", GUNS & AMMO, Aug. 91, 
p. 21]

o	o In Florida since the gun laws have been modified to allow 
women who qualify to carry a gun concealed, the reported rape 
rate has DROPPED by 90%.

o	"A study conducted by the St. Louis University School of Law 
found that armed citizens were exceedingly responsible in 
carrying handguns on the street. The study found that while 
police were successful in shooting or driving off criminals 
68 percent of the time, private citizens succeeded in 83 
percent of their encounters. Most importantly, while 11 
percent of the individuals involved in police shootings were 
later found to be innocents misidentified as criminals, only 
2 percent of those in civilian shootings were so 
misidentified. In light of the fact that in urban areas 
private citizens encounter and kill up to three times as many 
criminals as do law enforcement authorities, the track record 
of the private citizen is very impressive indeed." [Marion P. 
Hammer, "Pro-Gun Laws - They Work!", GUNS & AMMO, Nov. 91, p. 
92]

o	A recent study in the US found that an individual was much 
more likely to be a victim of violent crime in an area with 
strict gun control laws, than in an area with lax gun laws. 

o	Social Problems Journal of the Society for the Study of Social 
Problems Volume 35 No. 1 February 1988 pages 1-21 Crime 
Control Through the Private Use of Armed Force, Gary Kleck, 
School of Criminology, Florida State Univ., Tallahasse

o	Abstract (from article)

"Legal defensive violence by private citizens armed with firearms 
is a significant form of social control in the United States. 
Evidence indicates that private gun use against violent criminals 
and burglars is common and about as frequent as legal actions like 
arrests, is a more prompt negative consequence of crime than legal 
punishment and is often far more severe. In 1980 about 1,500-2,800 
felons were legally killed by gun-wielding civilians, about 8,700-
16,000 were nonfatally wounded and guns were used defensively about 
one million times. Victim resistance with guns is associated with 
lower rates of both victim injury and crime completion for 
robberies and assaults than any other victim action, including non-
resistance. Survey and quasi-experimental evidence is consistent 
with the hypothesis that private ownership and use of firearms 
deters criminal behavior".

 The one million uses refers to all guns, and in the article the 
estimate of 645,000 defensive uses for handguns is made. This may 
be the source for the frequently quoted 600,000 figure. (The 95% 
confidence interval is given as 468,000 - 822,000.) Note that 
defensive use does not mean that the gun was fired, and it appears 
that in the majority of defensive uses the gun was not fired.

o	In the US an estimated 1,000,000 times each year firearms are 
used by private citizens in self-defence (to deter, prevent 
or stop a crime). Handguns were used approximately 645,000 
times a year in self-protection, with an additional 350,000 
self-defence uses of rifles and shotguns This resulted in 1500 
to 2800 justifiable killings (0.15% to 0.28%) and 8700 to 
16600 non-fatal legally permissible woundings (0.87% to 
1.66%). The remaining 98% involved neither killings nor 
woundings but rather warning shots fired or guns pointed or 
referred to. "Crime Control through the Private Use of Armed 
Force" Professor Gary Kleck, Feb 88, Social Problems.

o	A 1979 US Justice Department study of 32,000 attempted rapes 
show that overall, when rape is attempted, the completion rate 
is 36%. But when a woman defends herself with a gun, the 
completion rate drops to 3%. Overall victimization studies 
show that for all violent crimes, including assault, rape, and 
robbery, the safest course for the victim is to resist with a 
firearm. The second safest course is passive compliance with 
the attacker, but this tactic approximately doubles the 
probability of death or injury for the victim. All other 
tactics (mace, whistles, hand-to-hand combat, screams, and so 
forth) have even worse outcomes.

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 1. Does the state issue possession or purchase permits for 
handguns? (O/P/U)

 2. Does the state issue open carry permits for handguns? (O/P/U)

 3. Does the state issue concealed carry permits for handguns? (O/
P/U)

 4. Is the permit discretionary in actual practice? (Y/N)

 5. Is the permit valid statewide? (Y/N/D)

 6. What is the initial duration of a permit? (in months)

 7. What is the renewal duration of a permit? (in months)

 8. What is the application cost for the permit? (in $$)

 9. What is the renewal cost for the permit? (in $$)

10. Does the permit require fingerprints? (Y/N/D)

11. Does the permit require drug testing? (Y/N/D)

12. Does the permit require background checks? (Y/N/D)

13. Does the permit require proof of training/knowledge? (Y/N/D)

14. Does the permit require citing a reason listed in statute? (Y/
N/D)

15. Is a permit available to nonresidents? (Y/N/D)

16. Does a nonresident permit require possession of home state 
permit? (Y/N)

17. What is the initial duration of a nonresident permit? (in 
months)

18. What is the renewal duration of a nonresident permit? (in 
months)

19. What is the application cost for the nonresident permit? (in 
$$)

20. What is the renewal cost for the nonresident permit? (in $$)

21. Does the state honor other states' permits? (Y/N)

22. Relative Score on the Gun Rights Index (GRI); values 0-99, 
rounded.

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 D = Discretionary, upon the discretion/need of the issuing 
authority

 I = Irrelevant, this question does not apply or is irrelevant

 O = Open, this action/activity is open to all lawful individuals

 P = Permit, a permit is required for this action/activity

 N = No

 U = Unlawful, this practice is unlawful to virtually all 
individuals

 Y = Yes

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GRI Scoring: (Answers without listed values do not affect the 
score)

 1: O = 33, P = 22

 2: O = 33, P = 22

 3: O = 33, P = 22

 4: Y = -11

 5: N = -5, D = -3

 6: x/24, max of 5

 7: x/24, max of 5

 8: -x/25, max of -5

 9: -x/25, max of -5

10: Y = -2, D = -1

11: Y = -2, D = -1

12: Y = -2, D = -1

13: Y = -2, D = -1

14: Y = -2, D = -1

15: N = -5, D = -3

16: Y = -1

17: x/24, max of 5

18: x/24, max of 5

19: -x/25, max of -5

20: -x/25, max of -5

21: N = -5





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AK| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

AL| O. P. P. N. Y. 12. 12. 15. 15. N. N. D. N. N. . . . . . . Y. 76.

AR| O. U. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 33.

AS| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

AZ| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

CA| P. P. P. Y. Y. 12. 12. 28. . N. N. Y. N. N. N. I. I. I. I. I. 
N. 42.

CO| O. O. P. Y. Y. . . . . . . Y. . . N. . . . . . N. 65.

CT| O. P. P. N. Y. 60. 60.25+. . Y. N. Y. Y. N. Y. . . . . . N. 69.

DC| U. U. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 0.

DE| O. O. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 83.

FL| O. P. P. N. Y. 36. 36.160.135. Y. N. Y. Y. N. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 54.

FM| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

GA| O. O. P. N. Y. 60. 60. 32. 32. Y. N. Y. N. N. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 76.

GU| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

HI| P. P. P. Y. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 50.

IA| P. P. P. Y. Y. 12. 12. 5. 2. N. N. Y. Y. Y. Y. N. 12. 12. 5. 
2. N. 46.

ID| O. O. P. N. Y. 48. 48.20+. 12. D. N. D. D. N. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 77.

IL| P. U. U. Y. N. 60. 60. 5. 5. N. N. N. N. N. Y. N. 12. 12. I. 
I. N. 7.

IN| O. O. P. N. Y. 48. 48. 25. 25. Y. N. Y. N. Y.?N. I. I. I. I. 
I. Y. 79.

KS| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

KY| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

LA| O. O. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .?Y. 88.

MA| P. P. P. Y. Y.<60. 60. 10. 10. Y. N. Y. D. Y. Y. N. 12. 12. 10. 
10. N. 54.

MD| O. P. P. Y. Y.<36. 36. 25. 25. Y. N. Y. N. Y. . . . . . . N. 56.

ME| O. O. P. N. Y. 36. 36. 60. 30. D. N. Y. Y. N. Y. N. 36. 36. 80. 
40. N. 81.

MH| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

MI| P. P. P. . . . . . . . . . . . Y. . . . . . Y. 66.

MN| P. P. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 61.

MO| P. O. P. . N. . . . . . . Y. . Y. N. . . . . . N. 58.

MP| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

MS| O. O. P. N. Y. 36. 36.100.100. Y. N. Y. N. N. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 69.

MT| O. O. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 83.

NC| P. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. D. D. D. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 52.

ND| O. U. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 50.

NE| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

NH| O. O. P. N. Y. 24. 24. 4. 4. D. N. Y. N. Y. Y. N. 24. 24. 10. 
10. N. 81.

NJ| P. P. P. Y. . . . . . Y. . Y. D. . Y. . . . . . N. 45.

NM| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

NV| O. O. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 83.

NY| P. P. P. Y. N.Lif. I. 45. I. Y. N. Y. Y. Y. Y. Y. . . . . N. 43.

OH| P. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 55.

OK| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

OR| O. O. P. N. Y. 24. 24. 50. 25. Y. N. Y. Y. N. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 71.

PA| O. P. P. N. Y. 60. 60. 13. . N. N. Y. N. Y. Y. Y. 60. 60. 13. 
.. N. 80.

PR| P. P. P. Y. N. 36. 36.350.250. Y. N. Y. N. Y. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 22.

PW| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

RI| O. P. P. . . . . . . . . . . . Y. . . . . . N. 72.

SC| O. P. P. . . . . . . . . . . . N. . . . . . N. 67.

SD| O. O. P. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 83.

TN| O. U. U. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . N. 28.

TX| O. U. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 33.

UT| O. U. P. N. Y. ?. ?. 35. 5. Y. N. Y. Y. N. Y. N. ?. ?. 35. 5. 
N. 44.

VA| O. O. P. Y. Y. 24. 24. 10. 10. Y. N. Y. N. Y. ?. ?. ?. ?. ?. 
?. ?. 62.

VI| . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Y. .

VT| O. O. O. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 99.

WA| O. P. P. N. Y. 48. 48. 23. 15. Y. N. D. N. D. Y. N. 48. 48. 23. 
15. N. 78.

WI| O. O. U. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. 66.

WV| O. O. P. N. Y. 60. 60. 70. 50. N. N. Y. Y. Y. N. I. I. I. I. 
I. N. 72.

WY| O. O. P. Y. N. 36. 36. 0. 0. N. N. Y. N. Y. Y. N. 36. 36. 0. 
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Notes:

 all numeric values are approximations, rounded where necessary

AL- 2:License for carry in a vehicle, open or concealed.

AL-12:Check common in large cities, most counties just a few day 
wait.

AR- 2:Carry "with a purpose to employ it as a weapon against a 
person" illegal.

AR- 3:Carry "with a purpose to employ it as a weapon against a 
person" illegal.

AZ- 3:Violation is class 1 misdemeanor, 6 mo. maximum jail 
sentence.

CA- 1:Except for handguns defined as "assault weapons".

CA- 2:Open carry is legal in unincorporated areas except where 
prohibited.

CA- 4:There is a wide variety of issuance policies throughout the 
state.

CA- 8:Application cost may vary.

CA-13:State does not require training, but many counties/cities do.

CO- 2:Except in some cities.

CO- 3:Get a permit from a town, then the state.

CT- 3:One must obtain a local permit before issuance of State 
permit.

CT- 4:Reasons for denial are statutory, and there is a binding 
appeal process.

CT- 8:Local permit ~$25, state permit $25.

CT-10:Required for issuance of local permit, but not for State 
permit.

CT-12:Required for issuance of local permit, but not for State 
permit.

CT-13:Required for issuance of local permit, but not for State 
permit.

DC- 1:Handgun moratorium since September 24, 1976.

FL-15:Non-resident licenses only to "Consular Officers of Foreign 
Governments".

GA- 2:No permit required to hunt or transport.

GA- 3:Open carry for protection requires same permit as for 
concealed carry.

IA-10:Fingerprints required for non-resident/professional permits.

IA-15:Only professional permit (security guard, FFL) available to 
non-residents.

ID- 8:Fees variable: $20 + reasonable costs; Idaho County quoted 
$30.

ID-15:No non-resident applications accepted after 7/1/91.

ID-17:Old non-resident permits good until expiration.

IL- 3:Exceptions for people of influence and power.

IL- 5:Chicago requires registration. Certain suburbs have banned 
handguns.

IL-15:Non-residend hunting license serves as gun owner 
identification card.

IN- 3:Available to residents or those who work in the state.

IN- 8:Local $10, state $15 for CCW, and $5 open only.

IN- 9:Local $10, state $15 for CCW, and $5 open only.

IN-14:Answer: "For protection of myself, my family, and the State 
of Indiana."

IN-21:Will honor out-of-state CCW for travellers.

KS- 1:Purchase permit may be required in certain cities or 
counties.

MA- 2:Same as CCW. Open carry strongly discouraged, much hassled.

MA- 3:Hard to get in Cambridge/Boston.

MA- 4:40 day appl. process. Inaction/rejection appeals go to 
district court.

MA- 5:Illegal: carry on school grounds, unattended handgun in motor 
vehicle.

MA- 6:Expires on applicant's birthday, four years after issuance.

MA-14:Must be suitable person and have specific need for "all 
lawful purposes".

MA-15:Two types available, with differing requirements.

MA-17:24 mo. license available for cash businesses, P.I.s, or 
military.

MA-18:24 mo. license available for cash businesses, P.I.s, or 
military.

MA-19:$20 for the 24 mo. license.

MA-20:$20 for the 24 mo. license.

MD- 6:Expires on last day of birth month, two years after issuance.

ME- 2:Open carry is legal, expect looks from some people.

ME- 3:Handguns must be unloaded in the car if you do not possess a 
CCW.

ME- 4:Resident permit must be issued or denied with cause within 
30 days.

ME-12:Non-resident must supply official driving record, criminal 
records check.

ME-15:Non-resident permit must be issued or denied with cause 
within 60 days.

MI- 2:Must posses license for carry in a vehicle, open or 
concealed.

MO- 1:Permit with background check required for each handgun 
purchase.

MO- 2:Open carry walking around; no carry in vehicles.

MO- 3:For cash/high-value businesses, only on-site & on-duty.

NC- 1:Purchase permit $5 in one county, others may differ.

NC- 3:Exceptions in extreme need (by court order), as determined 
by the state.

NC-12:In reference to purchase permit, only.

NC-13:In reference to purchase permit, only.

NC-14:In reference to purchase permit, only.

ND- 2:Loaded carry prohibited.

NH-14:Accepted reasons are "protection" and "target shooting".

NH-16:Want copy of CCW from home state if exists, or clean record 
letter.

NM- 2:It's legal to keep a loaded gun in your car.

NM- 3:Illegal concealed carry is often ignored; can carry 
`unloaded'.

NV- 3:CCW may be granted by county sheriff on written application.

NY- 3:NYC, people of influence, or `need'. Rest of state varies by 
county.

NY- 5:State permit no good in NYC, but NYC permit also valid in 
rest of state.

NY- 6:State permit issued for life; NYC permit issued for 2 years.

NY- 8:Fees vary by county.

OH- 1:Purchase permit may be required in certain cities or 
counties.

OR- 4:Resident permit must be issued or denied with cause within 
45 days.

OR-15:Wording of law now requires residence in county of 
application.

OR-21:'Equivalent' permits recognized. No out-of-state permits 
meet this test.

PA- 2:License for carry in a vehicle, open or concealed.

PA- 3:Discretionary in Philadelphia.

PA- 4:45 day application process.

PA- 5:Illegal: carry on school grounds

PA-14:Personal protection reason accepted without prejudice.

PA-15:Must already possess CCW in home state.

RI-15:Usually denied on first try; after complaint, approved on 
second try.

TN- 2:Except licensed private investigators, handgun hunters, 
cops.

TN- 3:Except licensed private investigators, handgun hunters, 
cops.

TX- 2:Except for "travellers" (i.e. crossing multiple county 
lines).

TX- 3:Except for "travellers" (i.e. crossing multiple county 
lines).

UT- 1:Possession of weapon authorized, permit or license not 
required.

UT- 2:Loaded firearm carry in vehicle or on public street is 
unlawful.

UT- 4:Permit must be issued or denied with cause within 60 days.

UT-12:Character references, photographs, employment & residential 
history.

UT-13:Specifies "evidence of weapons familiarity".

UT-15:Nonresidents traveling may possess unloaded, cased firearm 
in vehicle.

VA- 1:Must pass `instant' computer background check for purchase.

VA-14:"For lawful defense and security" is sufficient, by statute.

VT- 2:Carry "with the intent or purpose of injuring another" 
prohibited.

VT- 3:Carry "with the intent or purpose of injuring another" 
prohibited.

VT- 3:In Montpelier, Rutland & St. Albans: town ordinances ban 
loaded carry.

WA- 1:Purchase application on buying; buyers with no CCW must wait 
five days.

WA- 2:License required for loaded carry in a vehicle, open or 
concealed.

WA- 3:Local ordinances may not contradict or be more restrictive 
than state law.

WA- 4:Must be issued/denied with cause within 30 days. Routinely 
exceeded.

WA-14:Contrary to law, some agencies require that reasons be 
provided.

WA-15:Non-resident permit must be issued or denied with cause 
within 60 days.

WV- 8:Application fee of $20 and license fee of $50.

WY- 3:Violation is misdemeanor, $750 maximum fine, 6 mo. maximum 
jail sentence.

WY- 4:Sheriff may issue to travelers, merchant police, private 
detectives, etc.

WY- 5:Issued at personal discretion of Sheriff, may be valid only 
their county.





AK-Alaska AL-Alabama AR-Arkansas

AS-American Samoa AZ-Arizona CA-California

CO-Colorado CT-Connecticut DC-District of Columbia

DE-Delaware FL-Florida FM-Federated Micronesia

GA-Georgia GU-Guam HI-Hawaii

IA-Iowa ID-Idaho IL-Illinois

IN-Indiana KS-Kansas KY-Kentucky

LA-Lousiana MA-Massachussetts MD-Maryland

ME-Maine MH-Marshall Islands MI-Michigan

MN-Minnesota MO-Missouri MP-Mariana Islands

MS-Mississippi MT-Montana NC-North Carolina

ND-North Dakota NE-Nebraska NH-New Hampshire

NJ-New Jersey NM-New Mexico NV-Nevada

NY-New York OH-Ohio OK-Oklahoma

OR-Oregon PA-Pennsylvania PR-Puerto Rico

PW-Palau Islands RI-Rhode Island SC-South Carolina

SD-South Dakota TN-Tennessee TX-Texas

UT-Utah VA-Virginia VI-Virgin Islands

VT-Vermont WA-Washington WI-Wisconsin

WV-West Virginia WY-Wyoming



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Contact for more information:

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State of Arizona

			 (602)	542-4266	Attorney 
General Grant Woods

						
Department of Law

						1275 
W.	Washington St.

						
Phoenix, AZ 85007

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State of Florida

						
Dept. of State

			 (904)	488-0039	Division of 
Licensing

						P.O. 
Box 6687

						
Tallahassee, FL 32304-6687

..			.			.

						
Indiana State Police

			 (317)	232-8264	Firearms 
Licensing/CCW

..			.			.

						
State of Iowa

			 (515)	281-5261	Attorney 
General

						
Bonnie J. Campbell

						
Wallace State Office Bldg.

						Des 
Moines, IA 50319

 Paul H. Wieck II, Commissioner			Department of Public Safety

			 (515)	281-3211	Administrative 
Services Division

 Judy Cross		 (515)	281-5149	Weapons Permit Section

 Administrative Assistant			Wallace State Office Bldg.

						Des 
Moines, IA 50319-0040

..			.			.

 Commissioner John R. Atwood			Maine State Police

 Col. Andrew E. Demers, Chief			Licensing Divison

 Lt. Peter A. McCarthy	 (207)	582-8765	Gardiner Annex

						
State House Station, #35

						
Augusta, ME 04333

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State of Massachussetts

						
Department of Public Safety

 "firearms records"	 (617)	566-4500	Firearms & CCW Licensing

						1010 
Commonwealth Ave.

						
Boston, MA 02135

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State of New Hampshire

						
Department of Safety

						
Division of State Police

						10 
Hazen Drive

						
Concord, NH 03305

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Allegheny County

						
Sheriff's Office

 Deputy	Juran		 (412)	355-4700	Room 111, 
Courthouse

 firearms affairs				Pittsburgh, PA 15219

			 (717)	265-1701	Bradford County 
Sheriff's Office

			 (717)	697-0371	Cumberland 
County Sheriff's Off.

			 (717)	261-3805	Franklin County 
Sheriff's Office

			 (717)	327-2280	Lycoming County 
Sheriff's Office

			 (717)	988-4155	Northumberland 
C. Sheriff's Off.

			 (717)	771-9601	York County 
Sheriff's Office

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State of Utah

			 (801)	538-1015	Attorney 
General

						R. 
Paul Van Dam

 Joseph E. Tesch				236 State Capitol

 Chief Deputy Attorney General			Salt Lake City, UT 84114

 Ronald L. Probert

 Chief, Investigations

						
Department of Public Safety

						
Regulatory Licensing

						4501 
S. 2700 West

						Salt 
Lake City, UT 84119

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State of West Virginia

			 (304)	348-2021	Office of the 
Attorney General

						
Charleston, WV 25305

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Albany County

 Deputy Debre		 (307)	721-2526	Sheriff Gary Puls

						525 
Grant

						
Laramie, WY 82070



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From Andrew Ford.  [f--r--a] at [postoffice.agcs.com] Fri Jul 23 16:03:25 
1993

Comparison of Gun Rights vs Violent Crime.

Note that on average, the higher the individual gun rights, the 
lower the crime rates in every category except rape.  Note also 
that rape includes both reported successful rapes and reported 
attempted rapes: successful rapes are very rarely to reported.  
Attempted rapes, especially in those cases where the intended 
victim has shot her attacker, are far more likely to be reported.  
I've tried to find a break out of rape vs attempted, but have not 
been successful.  I could have left Rape out, but that didn't seem 
too honest.



0 is lowest gun rights (harshest restrictions)

99 is most liberal gun ownership rights.



   NOTE: rates are in crimes per 100,000 people, unless otherwise 
specified.

               Gun    Crime    Vio-   Prop-  Homi-   Rape

              Rights  Index    lent    erty   cide

              Index   Total   Crime   Crime   **'    **''

Average for:

  Top third     41    5995.7   778.3  5217.4  12.2   38.5

  Middle third  66    5181.5   517.5  4664.0   7.0   41.6

  Bottom third  80    4742.7   419.6  4323.1   6.1   39.3



D. C.            0   10774.3  2458.2  8316.0  77.8   49.9

Illinois         7    5935.1   967.4  4967.7  10.3   39.4

Tennessee       28    5051.0   670.4  4380.6  10.5   49.5

Texas           33    7826.8   761.4  7065.3  14.1   51.5

Arkansas        33    4866.9   532.2  4334.7  10.3   43.3

California      42    6603.6  1045.2  5558.4  11.9   42.6

New York        43    6363.8  1180.9  5182.8  14.5   29.8

Utah            44    5659.9   283.9  5376.0   3.0   37.8

New Jersey      45    5447.2   647.6  4799.7   5.6   29.8

Iowa            46    4100.9   299.7  3801.2   1.9   18.4

N. Dakota       50    2922.4    73.9  2848.5   0.8   17.8

Hawaii          50    6106.7   280.9  5825.8   4.0   32.5

N. Carolina     52    5485.9   623.5  4862.3  10.7   34.3

Florida         54    8810.8  1244.3  7566.5  10.7   52.4

Massachusetts   54    5297.9   736.3  4561.5   4.0   33.7

Ohio            55    4843.4   506.2  4337.3   6.1   46.8

Maryland        56    5830.5   919.0  4911.5  11.5   45.7



Missouri        58    5120.6   715.3  4405.3   8.8   32.5

Minnesota       61    4538.8   306.1  4232.7   2.7   34.0

Virginia        62    4440.6   350.6  4090.0   8.8   31.0

Colorado        65    6053.7   526.0  5527.8   4.2   46.2

New Mexico      66    6684.1   780.2  5903.9   9.2   49.7

Kentucky        66    3299.4   390.4  2909.1   7.2   29.0

Oklahoma        66    5598.7   547.5  5051.2   8.0   47.0

Wisconsin       66    4395.1   264.7  4130.4   4.6   20.7

Alaska          66    5152.7   524.5  4628.2   7.5   72.9

Arizona         66    7888.7   652.4  7236.4   7.7   40.9

Nebraska        66    4213.1   330.0  3883.1   2.7   30.0

Kansas          66    5193.1   447.7  4745.4   4.0   40.4

Michigan        66    5994.8   790.4  5204.4  10.4   77.6

S. Carolina     67    6045.2   976.6  5068.7  11.2   53.7

Connecticut     69    5386.7   553.7  4833.0   5.1   27.9

Mississippi     69    3869.1   340.4  3528.8  12.2   44.1

Wyoming         69    4210.6   301.4  3909.3   4.9   29.5



Oregon          71    5646.0   506.8  5139.2   3.8   46.9

Rhode Island    72    5352.7   431.9  4920.8   4.8   24.7

W. Virginia     72    2503.0   169.3  2333.7   5.7   23.6

Georgia         76    6763.6   756.3  6007.3  11.8   53.6

Alabama         77    4915.2   708.6  4206.7  11.6   32.6

Idaho           77    4057.1   275.7  3781.4   2.7   27.3

Washington      78    6222.9   501.6  5721.3   4.9   64.0

Indiana         79    4683.3   473.9  4209.4   6.2   37.9

Pennsylvania    80    3476.1   431.0  3045.1   6.7   25.8

New Hampshire   81    3645.2   131.5  3513.7   1.9   34.8

Delaware        83    5360.4   655.2  4705.1   5.0   88.1

Nevada          83    6063.6   600.9  5462.7   9.7   62.2

S. Dakota       83    2909.3   162.8  2746.5   2.0   34.3

Montana         83    4502.1   159.3  4342.8   4.9   24.4

Maine           84    3697.8   143.2  3554.5   2.4   19.7

Louisiana       88    6486.7   898.4  5588.2  17.2   42.2

Vermont         99    4340.9   127.2  4213.7   2.3   25.9





               Gun    Robb-   Aggra-  Burg-   Theft   Motor

              Rights   ery    vated    lary          Vehicle

              Index          Assault                  Theft

Average for:

  Top third     41     294.8   432.9  1244.4  3331.7   640.2

  Middle third  66     121.8   347.1  1100.3  3131.6   432.0

  Bottom third  80     112.1   262.2  1011.4  2913.8   397.9



D. C.            0    1213.5  1117.0  1983.0  4996.9  1336.1

Illinois         7     394.0   523.6  1063.0  3262.0   642.8

Tennessee       28     191.2   419.2  1264.0  2545.1   571.5

Texas           33     260.8   435.1  1851.5  4304.7   909.0

Arkansas        33     113.2   365.4  1210.9  2834.4   289.4

California      42     377.0   613.6  1345.4  3197.5  1015.5

New York        43     624.7   512.0  1160.7  2979.4  1024.7

Utah            44      59.9   186.3   880.6  4257.6   237.7

New Jersey      45     301.0   311.1  1017.2  2843.0   939.5

Iowa            46      39.2   240.1   808.4  2822.9   169.9

N. Dakota       50       7.8    47.4   426.6  2288.8   133.1

Hawaii          50      91.4   153.0  1228.2  4217.1   380.5

N. Carolina     52     152.1   426.4  1530.4  3048.3   283.7

Florida         54     416.8   764.4  2170.6  4569.6   826.3

Massachusetts   54     217.1   481.4  1112.7  2525.3   923.6

Ohio            55     188.5   264.7   982.5  2864.1   490.6

Maryland        56     363.8   497.9  1119.9  3082.9   708.7



Missouri        58     216.4   457.6  1065.8  2800.2   539.4

Minnesota       61      92.7   176.7   907.2  2959.9   365.6

Virginia        62     123.3   187.6   731.1  3031.4   327.5

Colorado        65      90.6   385.0  1208.8  3890.6   428.4

New Mexico      66     115.1   606.2  1738.7  3828.5   336.7

Kentucky        66      69.1   285.2   766.9  1942.7   199.4

Oklahoma        66     121.9   370.5  1447.5  3002.0   601.7

Wisconsin       66     112.7   126.7   751.4  2962.6   416.5

Alaska          66      76.7   367.4   894.3  3168.5   565.4

Arizona         66     160.9   442.8  1669.9  4703.0   863.5

Nebraska        66      51.1   246.2   723.8  2981.1   178.2

Kansas          66     117.6   285.7  1166.5  3243.5   335.4

Michigan        66     234.0   468.4  1143.3  3347.4   713.7

S. Carolina     67     152.4   759.3  1380.4  3302.4   385.8

Connecticut     69     234.8   286.0  1227.7  2874.4   730.9

Mississippi     69      86.2   198.0  1251.2  2070.0   207.6

Wyoming         69      15.9   251.1   631.0  3129.3   149.0



Oregon          71     144.3   311.8  1135.4  3545.2   458.6

Rhode Island    72     122.0   280.4  1271.1  2695.3   954.4

W. Virginia     72      37.9   102.1   657.1  1522.7   153.9

Georgia         76     263.5   427.4  1619.4  3714.3   673.6

Alabama         77     143.7   520.7  1103.4  2755.4   347.8

Idaho           77      15.0   230.7   813.2  2802.7   165.5

Washington      78     130.0   302.7  1262.9  4011.4   447.1

Indiana         79     101.3   328.4   943.3  2827.1   439.0

Pennsylvania    80     176.2   222.3   729.1  1810.5   505.5

New Hampshire   81      27.2    67.6   735.5  2534.2   244.0

Delaware        83     164.8   397.3   970.5  3290.8   443.9

Nevada          83     238.3   290.7  1367.4  3502.7   592.5

S. Dakota       83      12.4   114.1   527.4  2108.9   110.2

Montana         83      21.7   108.4   709.1  3391.2   242.5

Maine           84      25.1    96.0   823.0  2554.9   176.6

Louisiana       88     269.8   569.2  1437.9  3548.6   601.7

Vermont         99      11.7    87.2  1087.3  2918.5   207.9



*     see ccw_survey.

**    Population in thousands.

***   Area of state in (square miles???) taken from Webster's New 
Collegiate Dictionary (1981)

****  Persons/square mile

**'   Murder and non-negligent manslaughter.  IOW unjustified, 
intentional killings.

**''  Attempted Rape plus Rape.  Stats for Illinois are estimated 
- reporting error.

All crime figures from 1990 FBI UCR's

see crime_definitions for descriptions of crimes.





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