From: [car l f] at [panix.com] (Carl Fink) Newsgroups: sci.archaeology,soc.history,alt.pagan,sci.skeptic Subject: Re: Question regarding the Goddess in Europe Date: 20 Aug 1993 20:16:00 -0400 [r--n--n] at [lysator.liu.se] (Vincent) writes in part: R>Oden is the patron father. >Actually he has 3 sons, Tor, Balder and Loke (I spell it swedish). No, actually Loki (Norwegian spelling) was Odin's blood brother. He's only Odin's son in Marvel Comics. Actually the son of frost giants, as I recall. The IE hypothesis is that historical Germanic religion (Odin/Wotan/Oden as ruler of the gods, Thor/Tor/Donarr as most important god, etc.) is a modification of the original IE religion, in which Tyr/Zeus/Dyaus Pitar was king/sky god). Thus Dumezil identified Tyr with Odin's brother Vili or Ve (can't recall which). Odin was supposedly originally the psychopomp (guide for the dead) in Germanic religion. Since this religion became death-centered, the god of death became more and more important and eventually became the god of kings and king of the gods. BTW, Odin's role as psychopomp is why the Romans identified him with Mercury, who was their psychopomp. -- "Ignorant?! Ha! I don't even know the meaning of the word!" "Fight-Man", Evan Dorkin Carl Fink [car l f] at [panix.com]