From: [j--y] at [yorick.umd.edu] (John Day)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: INTERVIEW: IAGTFY Presents - MARK MARTIN, The Interview
Date: 27 Jun 1994 20:29:56 -0400

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		***	THE MARK MARTIN INTERVIEW	***


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				Introduction

	Mark Martin is a cartoonist perhaps best known for his work as the
	creator of one of the best comic book parodies of the 1980's
	"GNATRAT"  He went on from that to create several issues of the 
	TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES and most recently worked alongside
	Jim Woodring in the brilliant TANTALIZING TALES.  He produced
	a regular strip for the Comic Buyers Guide, 20 NUDE DANCERS, which
	was collected into two books by Tundra.  He has edited both the
	stip humor page for HEAVY METAL and the humor anthology HYENA,
	also for Tundra.  His short work has been featured in a variety
	of anthologies, from ANYTHING GOES to BUZZARD to DUPLEX PLANET,
	and has produced various mini-comics, most recently two collaborations
	with Jim Woodring, EXQUISITE CORPSE & CON JOB.  He continues to
	do various small projects today.  Watch for Mark's new strip,
	"BLESS THE BEASTS" in the back pages of Steve Bissette's TYRANT,
	issue one available in September.

	He has made us laugh and he has made us cry.  Ladies & Gentleman,
	I give you ... Mr. Mark Martin.

** Please note.  There will be an interview with Mark in the August issue of
	the Comics Journal.  Becuase of the nearness of that interview,
	he chose to refer any repeated to questions to that future
	interview.  Please watch for it.

			   ** GENERAL QUESTIONS **

1. How you doin?

	"Can't complain.  Doing pretty good since I found a good place
	 to go swimming for free."

2. How did you get started in comics?  Was GNATRAT your first project?

	"GNATRAT was my first big project.  Before that I had done mini-
	 comics and had a few single-panel & single-page comics published
	 in CBG, etc., and had done cartoon work for commercial accounts."
	** See Comics Journal Interview.

3. Who are your favorite cartoonists & why?  Who/what are your influences?

	** See Comics Journal Intv.

4. Why do you work in mini-comics?  What advantages do they have over other
	formats?

	"Instant Gratification.  They're small & quick, down & dirty, and 
	 after you finish the artwork, you take it down to the Quick-Copy
	 Shop and Presto! you have books.  There can be a 3-month lapse 
	 between finished art and "Real" comics - Certain material just
	 fits the format better.
	"The major downside: Very limited financial return!"

5. In connection to that, why comics at all?  What drew you to the outlet?
	Do you work outside the field?

	"Comics drew me to comics.  I like comics!
	"I also do commerical illustrations (advertising & editorial)  Not
	 much over the last few years, I used to do more, but I'm glad to
	 say I've been too busy in comics to do much else lately."

6. What kind of music, books, etc. do you enjoy?

	** See Comics Journal Intv.
	"To which I'll add my recent favorite discoveries:
	LAUGH WITH LEACOCK - A book of short stories & essas by humorist
		Stephan Leacock.  Circa 1910-1930.  May be hard to find
		but check your library.  A Very Funny Writer.
	MY NEIGHBOR TOTORO - Japanese animation, feature length movie.
	LITTLE ORLEY ADVENTURES - Children's records by Uncle Lumpy
		Brannum, circa 1940's & 1950's.  Mike Price turned me
		on to this material.  It's not been re-released since the 
		60's, but he owns it all and sent it to me on tape.  
		Mike is talking with the record company that owns this
		material, trying to convince them to release it again, so 
		keep your eyes peeled.  Uncle Lumpy later went on to 
		become "Mr. Green Jeans" on the Captain Kangaroo show,
		and you'll be amazed at how bland and watered down his
		character became.  Uncle Lumpy is funny & inventive,
		wheras I found Mr. Green Jeans "adequate."

			      ** THE WORKS **

1. Several people just wrote in to say thanks for GNATRAT.  It certainly
	seems to be a perennial favorite.  What brought that project
	about?  Is it something you can still look back on and be happy
	with?  Do you think you would every return to it?

	** See Comics Journal
	"I am not that crazy about the GNATRAT saga.  In retrospect, I
	 think it would have been better to leave it alone after the
	 first book.  I don't think GNATRAT will ever return.  Too many
	 other things I'd rather do."

2. How did the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles projects come about?

	"They invited me to do all the projects I've done with them."

3. 20 NUDE DANCERS 20: Why weren't all that many of the strips collected 
	into the Big Books?  Any plans to return to a weekly outlet?

	"Most of them were in the Big Book or the Year Two magazine-size
	 compilation.  The few that were not included will probaly be
	 printed in my next comic book series <I'm working on material
	 but don't have any definite plans or a publisher lined up right
	 now>  I'm working on a couple of strips now that I hope to
	 syndicate <like STEVEN or LIFE IN HELL> weekly."

4. What are your feelings about being published in HEAVY METAL and what do
	you hope to accomplish through that venue?  Was there a long-term
	plan to spin-off the humor section?

	"I'd just like to see as much of that kind of alternative humor
	 get published in the mainstream as possible.  Former editor
	 Julie Simmons created STRIP-TEASE and publisher Kevin Eastman
	 ultimately decides if it will continue, so they both deserve
	 credit and thanks for this outlet.  Naturally I'd love for the
	 humor section to evolve into a separate magazine, but there
	 are no plans so far.  Historically, such material has not sold
	 very well in the mainstream. (Nor terribly well in any stream,
	 come to think of it.)"

5. What iwll be the fate of HYENA and STRIP-TEASE?

	"HYENA is dead.  There was a little talk of resurrecting it at
	 Kitchen Sink <without me> but it was not seriously persued.
	"STRIP-TEASE will continue as is."

6. Will you be attending the San Diego ComicCon this year?

	"No, can't make it this year."

7. How did you and David Greenberger [creator, editor of DUPLEX PLANET, a
	collection of conversations with elderly residents of nursing
	homes.  Various artists illustrate the often non-sequitor answers
	and comments] get hooked up?  What attracts you to his work?

	"Wayno was visiting me last year and David G. came by to my
	 house to visit Wayno.  That's how we met and I started working
	 with him, but I've always enjoyed DUPLEX PLANET.  I really
	 enjoy being around very young people and very old people.  They
	 have very interesting ideas and insights."

8. What about Jim Woodring?  How do you relate to his work?  What brought
	you two together?  Is there a chance that you will work together
	again in the future?

	"I contacted Jim after seeing his work on the back cover of WEIRDO.
	 We became pen-pals and cultural exchangers.  Jim's a great
	 friend and one of the most talented people working in comics -
	 I'd even say one of the most talented in art and entertainment
	 in general.  He's truly unique, a real original.  I hope we
	 work together again soon."

			   *** THE INDUSTRY ***

1. Any thoughts on the death of Tundra?  Was TANTALIZING TALES ready to end,
	or was it cut short by the merger?

	** See Comics Journal Interview.
	"Jim and I would not have stopped doing TALES, it was a casualty
	 of the merge.  But we have both had more time to develop other
	 projects and venues, so hopefully it was just as well."

2. Any thoughts on self-publishing?  Would it be something you would consider
	for any future projects?

	"I would consider self-publishing, but it would be difficult to
	 decide to do it.  Many of the horror stories you've heard about
	 it are quite true.  I do not enjoy business wheeling and 
	 dealing and it does not come naturally to me, so I only self-
	 publish if necessary."

3. As someone who has worked in the field through several busts, most of 
	them in the black & white field, any thoughts on the state of the
	industry?

	"I've been 'In The Field' for eight years, and most of that time
	 the industry has been in some chaotic state, so I've come to 
	 view the eruptions with less alarm.  The comics business seems
	 like a stormy marriage that has a lot of bumps, a few bright
	 spots, and some screaming knock-down drag-outs, but continues
	 to plow forward."

			  *** The Lunatic Fringe ***

A. How and where did you find a copy of QUADRO GANG #1?  I though only a
	couple dozen of us had been inflicted with that particular book.
	I noticed it in your 20ND20 about being Anal Retentive.  What
	do you think of it?  Is it really a treasured possesion?

	"I met the creators of QUADRO GANG at a con and they gave me the
	 comic.  I enjoyed meeting these two sisters becuase they were
	 full of enthusiasm and positive energy, and yes, I do treasure
	 the book because it is so wrong.  It's not bad or boring, it's
	 terribly wrong.  In a terribly interesting way.  Other people
	 probaly don't see it that way, but I like it the way some
	 movie buffs like PLAN 9 FROM OUTERSPACE.

B. What did you ever do to SMASHING PUMPKINS to get them to name their
	band after your destruction?

	"Ah, you know how these goddam punks are!  'Piffed off at the 
	 Auforities!'  Their little attempt to offend me was barley
	 even noticed.  I've heard they're a very good band, but I've
	 never heard their music.  If anybody wants to send a tape to
	 me, I'll send something back."
  *Ed. note:  Mark's address will be printed at the end of this interview.

C. I sometimes get your art & Marc Hansen's confused.  Why is that?

	"Because Hansen is a weirdo."

D. Have you ever been seen with Marvel Sales Rep Mike Martin at the same
	time?  Or are you really the same, as I've suspected all along?

	"You have me confused with cartoonist Mark Martin.  I'm the
	 Race Car Driver."

E. What's my copy of BLACK CHROME worth?

	"It's worth a million dollars if you can find a rich idiot."

F. How can I get rid of warts?

	"Pee on a Frog."

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For copies of CON JOB or EXQUISITE CORPSE, or to send him tapes, you can
	contact Mark at: 2 Briar Road, Williamsburg, MA 01096.

Special thanks to all who sent in questions:

	[cur t w] at [evler.jsc.nasa.gov]
	[a--sc--t] at [magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu]
	[b--u--n] at [voguelph.ca]
	[t--mp--n] at [clipper.robadome.com]

Also to Jeff Mason, who unknowingly put the idea for this in my head in
 	the first place.  To the Comics Buyers Guide, where I first saw
	an ad for GNATRAT: The Dark Gnat Returns.  And to Mark Martin,
	for agreeing to the interview.

Christopher Day ([J--Y] at [UMD5.UMD.EDU])