From: [v--ss--r] at [convex.com] (Lance Visser) Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc Subject: Re: Marvels Annotations [repost] Date: 28 Jun 1994 16:25:33 GMT This is a quick pass annotations for marvels. The first issue is very difficult because they deal with 1940's marvels. The rest of the issues are easier. The biggest gaps deal with spider-man whose history at points I'm not all that familier with. I also missed lots of non-marvel celebrety cameos (like the Beetles and the Fantastic Four Wedding). Marvels 0 came out since these annotations. I believe all the story in it is derivitive of the human torch origin story in Marvel comics 1. Marvels 1 p.1 J. Jonah Jamison will eventually run the Daily Bugle p.2 The professor is Phynis Horton. The story is from Marvel comics 1. p. 10 the Sub-mariner's first appearance is not in Marvel Comics 1. The first appearance was in an obscure pre-Timely/marvel movie giveaway comic. p. 14 I dont know the Sub-mariner electric chair reference I dont remember what the reference to the angel is. The phantom eagle was a world war I pilot who fought under a mask for fear of german reprisals against his parents in germany. The rawhide kid was one of marvel's cowboy heros. p. 15 costumed character p. 16 The fight is from an issue of marvel comics (7?) There were several more "fire and water" fights between the torch and sub-mariner. p. 17 Betty Dean is an old sub-mariner supporting character from the '40's. She also appeared in the 70's Sub-Mariner book on occasion. p. 24 Captain america appears for the first time in Captain america 1. p.25 The headlines may refer to old marvel stories. p.26 A retired Popeye comments on Captain America. NIck Fury will become first, Sgt. Fury of the marvel book Sgt. Fury and his howling commandos, then Agent of SHIELD. p. 27-28 Dont know if the japanese tunnel story is an invaders story or a 1940's marvel story. p.29 More early marvel story references. p. 31-38 This is another famous torch-sub-mariner fight. I dont know the issue. p. 43-44 Bucky, Captain America, Sub-mariner, (The original vision?) unknown unknown unknown, blazing skull(?), unknown, Torch and Toro p. 27 Bill Lumpkin years later becomes the Fantastic Four's mailman. Marvels 2 P.1 - p.5 Avengers vs. Masters of Evil from Avengers 6 The plot basically is that Baron Zemo in south america reads a newspaper that captain america is back alive. He then gathers up the masters of evil and goes after him (and the avengers). p.2 Captain America p.3 Black Knight spraying Adhesive-X on the crowd. Iron Man p.4 Radioactive Man (A chinese villian with radiation based powers) He is spraying Adhesive-X. Thor is fighting the original Black Knight. In the middle of the page, radioactive man is shown hanging from a baloon. He was caught in a trap that wrapped him up in lead banding and hung him in the air. Iron man is dragging the melter through the air. p.5 Giant man p.6 I dont recall an explicit story that had the first press conference of the fantastic four. p.7 Difficult to place what Fantastic Four story it is. It is probably Strange Tales 123. I say this because the Torch does make the signal in that story, the make a reference to the beetle later who also appeared in that story. p.8 This is a reference to an early x-men story, but I can't place which one it is. p. 13 The eel appeared first as a human Torch Villian in strange Tales 112(?). p. 14 The photos are of Cyclops and the Fantastic Four symbol made by the Torch. p. 15 Giant man vs, Spider man happened in Tales to Astonish 57. p. 16 Kraven the Hunter comes to new York and shows up in Spider man 15 The Beetle is a minor marvel villian. The first appearance of the Beetle is in Strange Tales 123 where he fights the Human Torch and the Thing. The newspaper covers the aftermath of Avengers 6. The girl named masters is alicia masters, daughter of the puppet master, and blind Sculpture artist. p. 17 Sculptures are: (left to right) Hulk, Unknown (crouching), Sub-mariner, Dr. Doom, Pharoah Rama-Tut (Fantastic Four 19), Sub-mariner (from a different angle), Iron man, unknown. Dorres Evans, old girlfriend of the Human Torch from Strange Tales. p. 18 Statues: Unknown, Unknown, Iron man Executioner, Daredevil, unknown. Thing. Don and Jane are Dr. Don Blake (Thor) and Jane Foster (His nurse). Hank and the women with him are Giant man and the wasp respectivly (Janet Van Dyne and Hank Pym). The thing is down at the bottom of the page. p. 20 The Williams Embezzlement case refers to Simon Williams who would become Wonderman because of his legal and financial problems in Avengers 9. He died the same issue. p. 21 The engagement was announced in Fantastic Four 36. p. 23 The escaped convict is tha Absorbing man who thor fought with In Journey into Mystery 114-115. The New Avengers (Captain America, Hawkeye, Quicksliver and Scarlet witch) were introduced at the end of Avengers 16. Frightful Four abduction of Sue Storm was in Fantastic Four 38? Daredevil fought the Stilt-man (bottom of page) in Daredevil 8. p. 18 Bolivar Trask is the creator of the sentenels. He developed the sentinels (mutant hunting robots), but they turned on him about the same time that he decided mutants were not so bad after all. The story is in x-men 14-16. p. 20 Mille Collins is an old marvel character that had a romance book "Millie the Model" for years and years at Marvel. p. 21 The Wedding itself is from Fantastic Four Annual 3. The book itself was a giant fight to end all fights involving tons and tons of marvel heros and villians. The Annual fits into the the FF series between issue 43 and 44 I believe. Pictured are: (Front To back) (the guy who married them) Thing, Reed Richards, Sue Storm, Jonny Storm, Alicia Masters Hawkeye, Captain America Thor, Iron Man, (Peter Parker?), Scarlett Which, quicksliver, ?Janet Van Dyne (Wasp) ?, unknown, Daredevil, Dr. strange Norman Osborne?, J. Jonah Jamison, Willie Lumpkin (the FF's mailman) unknown, unknown, unknown unknown, unknown, unknown, (4 more unknowns) (I dont know any of the back two rows) (I dont know the three back photographers) At the very back of the room are Dum-Dum Duggan, Gabe Jones and Nick Fury all of SHIELD and the Howling Commandos before that. p. 22 The all-winners squad was marvel's first hero-group. I believe it started (in the books) late in WWII and continued for a while in the 40's. Those pictured are: Sub-mariner, Toro, The Human Torch, Captain America, Miss America, the Whizzer and unknown. The debate between Xavier and Trask I believe is from X-men 14. p. 32 Weschester County is where professor Xavier's school is located. p. 33 Iron Man's battle with the Titanium Man is from Tales of Suspense (68-70?) Marvels 3 Page 1 Photo of Black Widow circia Tales of Suspense 52(first app.)-59. Wanted poster of Hawkeye. His criminal status starts in Tales of Suspense 57 (first app) and ends when he joins the avengers (Avengers 16). Photo of new Avengers as they appeared at the end of Avengers 16. Photo of original Crimson Dynamo from Tales of Suspense 46. The magazine cover is from some undetermined point between Avengers 1 and Avengers 2. A photo of Iron man in his all-gold armor (sometime between Tales of Suspense 40 and 48). ? The Sen. Byrd and weapons test ? Stark and Contessa. The contessa could be the black Widow in which case it would be referring to Tales of Suspense 52. The small note with the names crossed out are Phil's attempt to find out the secret government thing (SHIELD) Tony Stark is involved in. p.2 Again, the secret government thing is shield which first appeared in Strange Tales 135 and which Tony Stark was involved deeply in even before Nick Fury was. p.3 The avengers going being declaired public menances is from Avengers 21-22. Power-man and the Enchantress basically frame the group until captain america figures out the frame. p.4 A scene from just after Avengers 22. Tony Stark's disappearance I believe is caused by his being kidnapped by the manderian in (approx.) Tales of Suspense 75-77. This story is also the first appearance of Ultimo, the Manderians Giant Blue robot. The Tony Stark vs. Congress story lasted quite a while so they could be referring to another instance where stark was in trouble with the comittee. p.5 The first panel shows shield fighting the Eggs of the Deadly Druid (approx. Strange Tales 144-146). Really bad story as I remember. I dont remember Miss McCann ever appearing. The mention of the Iron Man foundation seems really early in Marvel history relative to when I remember it first appearing. The Iron Man foundation is Tony Stark's Charity organization. p.6-8 The Flood is from Avengers 26-27. It was caused by Attuma as part of an attempt to conquer the surface world. p. 9 Spider Man attacking J. Jonah Jamison (from where?) Fantastic Four - fighting Dragon Man. This is probably From the first Inhumans storyline (somewhere in FF 44-46). p. 10 Hulk attacking White House ( ???) The Half-naked savage is Kazar. As far as I can tell, this is from Daredevil 14. Kazar has been brought to england by his brother (The Plunderer) and Framed for Murder. His brother turned him over to the police. While he was on trail, the pulnderer attacked a nuclear missle base in the north atlantic and was defeated by daredevil. The plunderer then confessed that Kazar had not murdered anyone. Lord Plunder also accused daredevil of participation in the murder. One of the bottom photos is of Captain America fighting Bartoc. (Tales of Suspense 75-76). The other is Hercules throwing a car probably from somewhere Journey into Mystery (Thor) 126-130. p.11-15 Fantastic Four 48 The watcher created the illusions to divert the Silver Surfer and Galactus away from earth. It did not work. Most of the rest of the story is from Fantastic Four 48-50. p. 28 The figure attacking the Fantastic Four is a robot used by Galactus known (I think) as the punisher. p. 39 The device is the Ultimate Nullifier. The watcher sent the Human Torch to get it and as it could destroy Galactus, it scared him off. p. 40 Galactus is punishing the Silver Surfer by stranding him on earth. p. 41 Goliath returning to the Avengers is from Avengers 28. In Avengers 26 or 27, the wasp was captured by the collector and the avengers spent 28 trying to free her. The concept that the public knew that Goliath was Giant man is new maybe. The identitys of Goliath (Hank Pym) and the Wasp (Janet Van Dyne) was revealed to the other avengers at the end of Avengers 28. I dont rememeber when they revealed their identities to the public at large. p. 42 Spider Man fighting the Looter is from Spider-man 36. p. 43 Tony Stark's plants closing because of the defense contracts being cut is from around Tales of Suspense 77 or 78. They were cancelled because Tony Stark didn't show up at Senator Byrd's hearings. Tony Stark didn't show up because he was kidnapped to China and fighting the Manderian. p.44 Count Neferia imprisoning Washington DC is from X-men 22-23. He captured the city with the help of one of the worst collections of third-rate marvel villians ever assembled: Plantman, Scarecrow, Porcupine, the eel and the Unicorn. Marvels 4 p.2-3 (top panel) - Avengers 96 fight in space against a Skrull(?) invasion fleet (Kree-Skrull war). It might also have been a kree fleet. I dont remember. The characters are Scarlett witch, Thor, Goliath (Hawkeye version), Captain Marvel, Vision, quicksilver and Iron man. Captain marvel technically should not be in the picture I believe by the story. p.2 (bottom left) Avengers 92-93. The details of a Kree plot to turn the world back to the stone age (Avengers 90-91) leak to the public and A senator demands that the Avengers explain themselves. p.2 (middle) - The Mandroids (armored Suits) were sent to arrest the avengers in avengers 94 for questioning. They failed. p.2 (bottom right) Avengers 97 - At the end of the Kree-Skrull war, the senator who had been attacking the avengers is revealed to be the fourth of the four Skrulls who impersonated the Fantastic four in FF 2 (and who got away at the time). The crowd he was speaking to lynched him. I believe the Supreme Intellegence of the Kree (with souped-up powers via contact with the brain of Rick Jones) broke the Skrull's disguise. p.4 The murder reference to spider man involves the death of Captain Stacy in the middle of a battle between Dr. Octopus and spider man. (issue?) p.5 Black Widow murder trial is from Daredevil 83. The scorpion was thought to have been killed by the black widow. p.6 "Four wounded in Stark Riot". Iron Man 44-46. Tony Stark for various reasons wants to get out of the defense business. He comes into conflict with his board of directors over that decision. He also comes into conflict with his friend Kevin O'brian who he has given a suit of iron-man type armor called the guardsman to. The fight with Keven O'Brian is over: 1. A Girl, Marianne Rogers 2. Politics . 3. The Guardsman armor is driving him insane the more he uses it. As I remember, the guardsman offers his services (as replacement to Iron man at Stark Industries) to the board of directors. One of the directors asked him to prove himself against the demonstrators outside of Stark Industries. He gets angry and fires his repusor rays into the crowd. The impression in this issue was that the demostrators died. The paper here suggests they were only wounded. At the end of the storyline the guardsmen ends up getting killed. The whole story is a veiled Kent State reference (Guardsman == National Guard). The Falcon - Nothing really specific here. This sort of attitude was present all through the Captain america relivance phase (120's to 140's were the high point, limited references after that up to 183 or so. Captain Stacy (panel 3) - Captain Stacy (Gwen's Father) was killed during a battle between Spider man and Dr. Octopus. p.7 The Galactus story is Fantastic Four 120-123. Read Richards uses the powers of Agatha Harkness to calm down everyone in the city after Galactus leaves. The eviction thing started in Fantastic Four 126 with the thing threatening the owner of the Baxter building (Collins) after collins came up to complain about the thing hitting something and shaking the building. In Fantastic Four 127, the tourch burned a court order for the groups eviction. The story dragged on as a subplot from there. p.9 Robbie Robinson is an old Daily bugle character from Spiderman. p.10 Luke Cage appeared first in Luke Cage, Hero for Hire 1. Not much else to say. Marvels gives the background one the characters gimmick. I dont know who the witness is to the death of Captain Stacy. p.11 The death of Captain Stacy happened in Spider man ??? p. 12 Hulk in New York ??? p. 13 I believe the objects coming from the Sun are the Sentinals returning to battle the avengers in 103-104. Starcore was a UN space station that showed up in varous marvel books (principally Hulk I believe). p. 14 I dont recall who Dr. Jorgenson is. It might just be Morbius the vampire and this could be a reference to Spider man 101-102. p. 15 The avengers fight the sentenals in Avengers 103-104 The fight happens in Australia at least in part. The pictures are of Dr. Doom and Luke Cage. Dr. Doom did hire Luke Cage at one point, but I dont remember the issue of his book that it happened in or if the two pictures are a reference to it. p. 16 I dont remember the issue in which Spider man captures Dr. Octopus. The fire destroying Yellowjacket and the wasp's home was caused by the Whirlwind in Marvel Feature 5. At that time, Yellowjacket was ant-man again and both he and the wasp were stuck at six inches in height. The survived the fire, but spent several issues fighting there way to safety while the world thought they were dead. The photo is from their wedding in Avengers 60. (Bottom of Page) This is from Daredevil 93-94. Daredevil is living in San Francisco with the Black Widow at this point. the Villian pictured is some rich guy named ? who stole something called project four which turned him into a giant. The giant is called the industructable man. p. 17 Thundra's fight with the thing at Shea Stadium is from Fantastic four 133. Thundra was a member of the Frightful Four at the time. She kidnapped the thing's girlfriend Alicia to force the fight at Shea Stadium. Thundra had the thing beat and was tricked into giving up the fight when Reed Richards turned the thing back to Ben Grimm for a couple seconds. p. 24-28 Sub-Mariner 60. The altantian citizen kidnapped is actually the red-skinned alien Tamera. p. 29-35 Spider-man 120-122(?) - The Death of Gwen Stacy issues. p. 36 Norman Osborne was the Green Goblin who was killed at the end of Spider man 122(?) shortly after Gwen Stacy. p. 39 Pictures in the pile are: Lizard, Spider man fighting Rhino, Nick Fury, Black Panther, half-covered in middle (silver Surfer?), Green half-exposed (Beetle?). Next panel photo is of Hulk. The Time story is probably from around Avengers 113 or 114. There was a whole story about the protests over the relationship between the vision and scarlett witch. There were a bunch of protestors called the human bombs who tried to kill the vision by strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves up next to him. The Detroit story is from Iron Man 60. The Masked Marauder is the one stealing the space shuttle. p. 40 The electrical monster is Zzack(sp) and the story is from Hulk 166. Photos at bottom of page: The black panther picture (again) Thing fighting the Hulk from the time of Fantastic four 25. The picture is a swipe of the cover of the issue. Triton of the inhumans driving a truck. The picture looks familar but I can't place it. p. 41 More photos: Electro, spiderman and truck-driving Triton again. In the middle of the page, we get the Rhino vs. Spiderman photo again. p. 42 Ant-man and the wasp were discovered alive at the end of Marvel Feature 10. A villian named nemisis had cured ant-man and the wasp of their size problems. He was holding the wasp hostage and wanted to use ant-man to break into avengers mansion. ant-man outsmarted nemisis and saved the wasp. The avengers discovered him and all the loose ends were cleaned up. This was the end of the ant-man series in Marvel feature. The front cover is Spider man, the green goblin and Gwen Stacy from spiderman 122. The back cover is the avengers from Avengers 96 (Goliath (the Hawkeye version), Captain Marvel and Captain America).