I voted against it when I voted for it
One of the complaints against Delaware Representative Mike Castle is that he voted in favor of moving an impeachment bill forward to impeach President Bush. Castle’s supporters are saying that, no, he voted in favor of moving it forward in order to kill it.
Which sounds silly, but in fact it could be correct. The normal thing to do with a bill if you want it to succeed is to move it forward to the committee that can work on it. The normal thing to do if you want a bill like that to fail is to move it forward to a committee that can bottle it up.
This is along the same lines that voting against a bill is something supporters do when a bill is losing, because it gives supporters the option to bring up a motion of reconsideration later and vote yes. They’re killing their own bill to keep it alive, so to speak.
But when “yes” means “no” and “against” means “for”, how are voters supposed to know where their representative stands? And if the resolution was passed out of committee, what would Castle’s excuse be? “I was trying to game the system, but I failed?”
So now we have CYA votes where a representative would have voted one way but was allowed by their party leadership to vote another way to confuse the voters; and we have votes to move a bill forward that are really votes to block a bill. And we have votes to kill a bill that are really votes to resurrect a bill.
I actually tossed this post into my canceled articles folder for a few hours. It isn’t as though any of this is new; the reconsideration trick is part of Robert’s Rules of Order. And I’m sure these tricks have been used in favor of things I support as often as they’ve been used in favor of things I don’t.
But maneuvers like this have evolved into ways to provide plausible deniability to incumbents. The politician can vote, and then claim to support or oppose a measure depending on public opinion three years later. These are also ways of saying that you need professional politicians to understand politics, because a normal person can’t just look at their representative’s votes and know whether the rep is in fact representing them.
A normal person certainly can’t be expected to take part in politics. They might vote the wrong way and not even know it!
- Bottle it up in committee at Bulworth•
- Jay Billington Bulworth explains how to vote yes during an election and then forget about it afterwards.
- Bulworth
- Senator Jay Billington Bulworth suffers a nervous breakdown and falls in love with Halle Berry. I don’t think you need psychological problems for that. He also decides to start being honest during his campaign speeches, and that’s where the fun starts.
- Castle Vote to Impeach Bush?: Jeffrey Lord
- “There were 23 other Republicans who joined him in supporting Kucinich's impeachment passion, so perhaps it was a parliamentary necessity agreed upon by the leadership. But 166 ‘No’ votes from Republicans would seem to indicate there was considerable GOP revulsion at what Kucinich was trying to do. But not, it would seem, from Castle.” (Hat tip to Dan Riehl at Riehl World View)
- Reconsideration at United States Senate Committee on Rules & Administration
- “When a question has been decided by the Senate, any Senator voting with the prevailing side or who has not voted may, on the same day or on either of the next two days of actual session thereafter, move a reconsideration”
- Robert’s Rules of Order: Reconsideration of a motion
- “Under Robert's Rules of Order and some other authorities, the motion to reconsider may be made only by a member who voted on the prevailing side in the original vote.”
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