From: John Lindenberg <[j--in--y] at [flinet.com]>
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Gun-Control Advocates, The Criminal's Friends! (long version)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 1996 03:01:55 -0400

Gun-Control Advocates, The Criminal's Friend!
John Lindenberg
8/10/96

   In a study released on Thursday, August 8, 1996, Professor
John R. Lott and David B. Mustard of the University of Chicago
conclude that allowing law abiding citizens to carry concealed
weapons deters violent crime.

   Under a grant from the Olin Foundation, the researchers 
worked for two years on the project.  The result of their work 
is an extensive study using FBI crime statistics for all 3,054 
U.S. counties from 1977 through 1992, which demonstrates that 
when states pass "Shall Issue" laws allowing law-abiding 
citizens to carry concealed weapons, violent crime drops off 
significantly.

   The study stated that if all states adopted the so-called 
"right-to-carry" laws, more than 1,500 murders, 4,000 rapes and 
60,000 aggravated assaults "would have been avoided yearly."  
And it said "the estimated annual gain from allowing concealed 
handguns is at least $6.214 billion."

   This totally contradicts the position of Gun-Control 
Advocates who have, for years, insisted that the ONLY way to 
stop violent crime is to disarm the populace. 

   Since the STATED aim of all Gun-Control lobbies is to 
reduce/eliminate violent, gun-related crime and accidents, 
reason would suggest that the Lott/Mustard study showing that 
armed, law abiding citizens can help to reduce violent crime 
would have been received as welcome news by both sides of the 
gun control issue, but that has not been the case. 

        (MSNBC, 8/09/96 ) --- Sue Glick, a spokeswoman for the 
        Violence Policy Center, stated "This can't be", and "the 
        study is flawed".  She suggested that "its funding from 
        the Olin Foundation is tainted because of the Foundation's 
        original ties to the Olin Corporation."  

   Kathryn Behan, a spokeswoman for the University of Chicago said: 
"The Olin Foundation has no connections to the Olin Corp., and Olin 
Fellowships are highly prestigious.  The foundation is looking for 
good scholarship and research, not a certain outcome."  Ms. Glick 
did not offer any facts to substantiate her allegations, nor did 
she offer any refutation of the actual content of the Lott/Mustard 
study, nor gave any indication that she had even read it.

        (The Washington Post, 8/09/96) ---  Douglas Weil, of the 
        Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, said "We really do not 
        believe Dr. Lott's results."  Mr. Weil complained that "it 
        failed to take into account gun control laws and other 
        crime-prevention steps that affect the crime rate".  

   The Lott/Mustard statistical analyses of the FBI crime data was 
very specifically tuned to check the effectiveness of concealed 
carry laws and, contrary to Mr. Wiel's assertions, did consider and 
account for numerous other influences.  Mr. Wiel, obviously either 
did not read the Lott/Mustard study or, did not understand what he 
read.

        (Newsday, NY, 8/9/96) --- Stephen Teret, director for the 
        Center for Gun Policy and Research said "claims by Lott and 
        Mustard that such laws deter violent crimes are 
        "unsubstantiated," adding: "Their study contains factual and 
        methodological flaws and reaches conclusions that are 
        implausible based on criminologic research and theory."  

   Stephen Teret's statements [and those of the other Gun-Control 
Advocates] were made within hours of the Lott/Mustard study being 
released.  Dr. Teret seems to have drawn some interesting conclusions 
without having the time to do any research into the basis of his 
statements.

        (Newsday, NY, 8/9/96) ---  Rep. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., one 
        of Congress' leading gun control advocates, said the study made 
        "pie-in-the-sky claims with only flawed science and a 
        questionable agenda to back it up."  

   Mr. Schumer represents Brooklyn, N.Y., which is part of New York City.
New York City has some of the toughest gun laws in the United States.  
New York City has one of the largest police forces of any U.S. city, 
with over 40,000 men/women in uniform.  New York City has one of the 
highest rates of violent crime of all of the cities in the U.S.  Again, 
note that Mr. Schumer, as with all of the other Gun-Control Advocates, 
has not had the time to read and/or review the facts of the Lott/Mustard 
study before making his statements.

   On 8/9/96, I semt an e-mail message to Phoenix Publications, the 
publisher of "Firearms Policy Journal" in which I asked "Could you tell me 
if Phoenix Publications has responded to the recently released study of 
concealed weapons laws done by professor J. Lott of Chicago, IL?", and "If 
so when will a copy be available to read?".

In response, Mr. G. E. Ernst replied:

        "I saw for the first time mention of the study you inquire about 
        in an article in the Washington Post today, Aug 9, p. A4.  The 
        findings were made public by the Cato Institute, a libertarian think 
        tank.",
        and;

        "Without having seen the study I would instinctively distrust it.",   
        and;

        "The issue is irrelevant.", 
        and;

        "Registration of ownership does not exclude carrying concealed weapons, 
        but carrying concealed weapons does not provide security.  If all 
        citizens are carrying concealed weapons for self-defense and there are 
        no rules and regulations to remove guns from the lawless and the 
        disloyal, the insecurity becomes absolute.  The armed predators will 
        simply ambush their victims."

   It's clear that Mr. Ernst has decided that since the Lott/Mustard study does 
not support his magazine's (Firearms Policy Journal) position of advocating 
Gun-Control, it doesn't matter whether the study is factual, or not.  He 
condemns it, based solely on his personal bias'.


   There is a common thread that should be obvious to anyone.  All of the 
Gun-Control Advocates quoted above had NOT reviewed the Lott/Mustard study and 
do not supply ANY facts to substantiate there strident claims.  Why?    

   If a very real possibility of reducing violent crime in this nation exists, 
even though the method may contradict those promoted by Gun-Control Advocates, 
why do they condemn it out of hand?  Wouldn't a reasoning individual who was 
actually concerned about reducing violent crime in this country give this study 
careful consideration before making the statements quoted above?  

   If Gun-Control Advocates were sincerely interested in reducing violent crime, 
the answer would HAVE to be yes! But...;

   Their reactions to the Lott/Mustard study demonstrate that Gun-Control Advocates 
are NOT interested in reducing violent crime.  The high rates of violent crime in 
this nation work in the Gun-Control Advocates favor and they use it as a tool to 
promote their actual agenda.  It works in their favor because it gives them a weapon 
to beat everyone over the head with, guilt.  Using guilt, they bludgeon us day after 
day with the supposed fact that the cause of violent crime is our law abiding 
citizen's refusal to give up their firearms.  They plead with us, producing 
heart-rending pictures of death and injury perpetrated by violent criminals, then 
tell us that it is all our fault because we haven't turned in our guns.

   There can be no mistake, the Gun-Control Lobby is only interested in taking away 
the firearms of law abiding citizens and because of this agenda they are, in effect, 
helping violent criminals avoid coming into (possibly fatal) contact with armed, 
law-abiding citizens and, preventing law abiding citizens from having the means to 
defend themselves when a violent criminal accosts them.

   Gun-Control Advocates are going to have a serious problem in dealing with the 
Lott/Mustard study, and that's trying to explain to America why they continue to 
oppose laws that could have prevented the deaths of the 5,626 citizens who have 
been Murdered, the injuries of the 14,967 citizens who have been Raped, and the 
injuries of the 214,998 citizens who have been the victims of Aggravated Assault 
since January 1, 1973.

   Gun-Control Advocates would do well to consider the words of Attorney General 
Janet Reno, who, when asked about the Lott/Mustard study at her weekly news 
conference on 8/8/96 said, that she "hadn't read it", and "I try to be 
open-minded.... When a report like that has come out, I think it's important that 
I look at it before yakking about it."

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